| Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules and incidents (merged posts) Posted by ChrisB at 20:29, 23rd October 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That's what travel insurance is exactly for?
| Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules and incidents (merged posts) Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:26, 23rd October 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Grieving family's 'turmoil' over Ryanair policy

Sophie Taylor and her father, Peter Watkins, said they would not use the airline again
A family said they were shown a lack of empathy by Ryanair following a bereavement.
Sophie Taylor, from Chudleigh, Devon, purchased two tickets with the airline in October 2024 as part of a package holiday to Lanzarote for her mum Sharon Watkins' 60th birthday celebration.
Sadly, her mother died in August, two months before the holiday was due to take place. When Ms Taylor requested to change the name on her mother's ticket to her father's name, she was told she would have to pay a €115 (£100) name change fee.
Ryanair said it offered Ms Taylor the option to change the name on payment of the fee.
Ms Taylor bought the holiday through Love Holidays, and was due to fly from Bristol on 2 October with Jet2holidays and return a week later with Ryanair.
She said both Love Holidays and Jet2holidays were "absolutely amazing and waived the admin fees" for the name change, but Ryanair did not.
Love Holidays said in the event of a medical issue or bereavement, its policy is to waive its usual amendment fees. Jet2Holidays have been approached for comment.
She added she submitted an online complaint to Ryanair, which included photographs of the death certificate, but the airline responded with a "generic message" which said it was policy and the payment would be needed.
Ms Taylor said: "On top of losing the most important woman in my life, I didn't need to be told by a generic message that they wanted more money. My whole world came crashing down when I lost my mum, but to have that on top of everything else was just awful."
Her father Peter Watkins said his wife had suffered with neuroendocrine cancer for about 12 years before her death in August. "Lanzarote Puerto Del Carmen was a special place, somewhere we visited some 15 or 16 times, so the return for myself and Sophie was somewhat very mixed emotions", he said.
Mr Watkins travelled with his daughter to Lanzarote but decided not to cancel his wife's return seat to prevent it from being resold, instead booking a separate seat on the same flight for £52. He said: "You don't need that emotional turmoil, as you are already in emotional turmoil".
Ryanair said the package was sold by Love Holidays as a non-refundable promotional fare and recommended customers take out travel insurance. The airline added that as the original passenger had died, the family could apply for a full refund.

Sophie Taylor and her father, Peter Watkins, said they would not use the airline again
A family said they were shown a lack of empathy by Ryanair following a bereavement.
Sophie Taylor, from Chudleigh, Devon, purchased two tickets with the airline in October 2024 as part of a package holiday to Lanzarote for her mum Sharon Watkins' 60th birthday celebration.
Sadly, her mother died in August, two months before the holiday was due to take place. When Ms Taylor requested to change the name on her mother's ticket to her father's name, she was told she would have to pay a €115 (£100) name change fee.
Ryanair said it offered Ms Taylor the option to change the name on payment of the fee.
Ms Taylor bought the holiday through Love Holidays, and was due to fly from Bristol on 2 October with Jet2holidays and return a week later with Ryanair.
She said both Love Holidays and Jet2holidays were "absolutely amazing and waived the admin fees" for the name change, but Ryanair did not.
Love Holidays said in the event of a medical issue or bereavement, its policy is to waive its usual amendment fees. Jet2Holidays have been approached for comment.
She added she submitted an online complaint to Ryanair, which included photographs of the death certificate, but the airline responded with a "generic message" which said it was policy and the payment would be needed.
Ms Taylor said: "On top of losing the most important woman in my life, I didn't need to be told by a generic message that they wanted more money. My whole world came crashing down when I lost my mum, but to have that on top of everything else was just awful."
Her father Peter Watkins said his wife had suffered with neuroendocrine cancer for about 12 years before her death in August. "Lanzarote Puerto Del Carmen was a special place, somewhere we visited some 15 or 16 times, so the return for myself and Sophie was somewhat very mixed emotions", he said.
Mr Watkins travelled with his daughter to Lanzarote but decided not to cancel his wife's return seat to prevent it from being resold, instead booking a separate seat on the same flight for £52. He said: "You don't need that emotional turmoil, as you are already in emotional turmoil".
Ryanair said the package was sold by Love Holidays as a non-refundable promotional fare and recommended customers take out travel insurance. The airline added that as the original passenger had died, the family could apply for a full refund.
| Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules and incidents (merged posts) Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:32, 21st July 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Ryanair mulls bigger bonus for spotting oversized bags
Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary has said the airline is considering increasing a bonus it pays to workers for identifying passengers with oversized bags.
Staff currently receive €1.50 (£1.30) if they intercept customers who are trying to bring bags that are too large on a Ryanair plane. "We are determined to eliminate the scourge of oversized bags which delay boarding and are clearly unfair on the over 99% of our passengers who comply with our baggage rules," Ryanair said in a statement.
Mr O'Leary told RTE's Morning Ireland, "we're thinking of increasing it [the bonus]," to stop people from bringing oversized bags.
Ryanair said oversized baggage fees are only paid by a small minority of passengers. "Our message to those 0.1% of passengers is simple; please comply with our generous bag rules or you will be charged at check-in or at the gate," the airline said.
Mr O'Leary said his airline was already struggling with that amount of baggage taken on planes. "That's one of the reasons we are so aggressive about eliminating the scourge of passengers with excess baggage," he added.
The chief executive said over 99.9% of passengers follow the baggage rules correctly and referred to "sizers" located within the airport that can measure bags. "We are happy to incentivise our (staff) with a share of those excess baggage fees, which we think will decline over the coming year or two," he said.
Ryanair passengers can be charged up to €75 (£65) for bringing a bag larger than the size they paid for while booking their flight. The airline currently allows a small carry-on bag – with a size capped at 40cm x 20cm x 25cm and weight of 10kg – with every ticket. However, this is set to increase to 40cm x 30cm x 20cm as a result of minimum standards being brought in by the EU.
Ryanair customers can also pay to take extra luggage on the plane and agree to specific size confirms and conditions when they book.
Mr O'Leary's comments came as Ryanair reported a jump in profits for the April to June period. It said profits after tax rose to €820m (£710.3m) for the period, up from €360m a year earlier, helped by the timing of Easter and also by a rise in fares.
Mr O'Leary said Ryanair's summer fares would be the same rate on average as 2023 but added he thought the airline could boost its profitability by "controlling costs".
Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary has said the airline is considering increasing a bonus it pays to workers for identifying passengers with oversized bags.
Staff currently receive €1.50 (£1.30) if they intercept customers who are trying to bring bags that are too large on a Ryanair plane. "We are determined to eliminate the scourge of oversized bags which delay boarding and are clearly unfair on the over 99% of our passengers who comply with our baggage rules," Ryanair said in a statement.
Mr O'Leary told RTE's Morning Ireland, "we're thinking of increasing it [the bonus]," to stop people from bringing oversized bags.
Ryanair said oversized baggage fees are only paid by a small minority of passengers. "Our message to those 0.1% of passengers is simple; please comply with our generous bag rules or you will be charged at check-in or at the gate," the airline said.
Mr O'Leary said his airline was already struggling with that amount of baggage taken on planes. "That's one of the reasons we are so aggressive about eliminating the scourge of passengers with excess baggage," he added.
The chief executive said over 99.9% of passengers follow the baggage rules correctly and referred to "sizers" located within the airport that can measure bags. "We are happy to incentivise our (staff) with a share of those excess baggage fees, which we think will decline over the coming year or two," he said.
Ryanair passengers can be charged up to €75 (£65) for bringing a bag larger than the size they paid for while booking their flight. The airline currently allows a small carry-on bag – with a size capped at 40cm x 20cm x 25cm and weight of 10kg – with every ticket. However, this is set to increase to 40cm x 30cm x 20cm as a result of minimum standards being brought in by the EU.
Ryanair customers can also pay to take extra luggage on the plane and agree to specific size confirms and conditions when they book.
Mr O'Leary's comments came as Ryanair reported a jump in profits for the April to June period. It said profits after tax rose to €820m (£710.3m) for the period, up from €360m a year earlier, helped by the timing of Easter and also by a rise in fares.
Mr O'Leary said Ryanair's summer fares would be the same rate on average as 2023 but added he thought the airline could boost its profitability by "controlling costs".
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by LiskeardRich at 07:57, 28th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don’t get the negativity towards Ryanair. In fact I’ve found them to be one of the most on time airlines, and everything always very efficient. When I can fly to Krakow, Budapest or Geneva for less than £20 each way as well.
Their service is definitely superior to the very expensive British airways
I don’t either. Always had good flights with them. They are after all Europe’s largest airline with most legacy airlines copying most of what they do, so they must be doing something right.Their service is definitely superior to the very expensive British airways
I haven't had a problem with Ryanair but that's because I've double-checked and triple-checked that I've jumped accurately through all their hoops regarding check-in, boarding passes, cabin baggage, hold baggage etc. I have the impression that they make their profit from the expensive charges imposed on passengers who fail to pass precisely through a hoop. And having to avoid this makes me feel more stressed when I fly with them.
All this said, once I'm in the air I've found the flying to be similar to other airlines, and I would consider flying with them again.
They make the hoops very clear at the booking stage in all fairness to them. I’ve recently made a booking and each stage it asks if you’re sure i only wanted an underseat bag of dimensions x y z. I’ve then got an email reiterating those hoops, trying to sell me more.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by Clan Line at 20:19, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the newspaper clipping ...
On a flight you are guaranteed a seat, you don't have to stand up for hours on the train and it is quicker
Yes, she did say that a flight is quicker. However, it would have been totally silly to claim that the journey was quicker, when it patently wasn't - which was not what she said. Was the 8 hrs on the beach really part of the flight ? Actually, the flight WAS quicker, 5h 05m as opposed to 6h 15m on the train.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by PrestburyRoad at 18:15, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don’t get the negativity towards Ryanair. In fact I’ve found them to be one of the most on time airlines, and everything always very efficient. When I can fly to Krakow, Budapest or Geneva for less than £20 each way as well.
Their service is definitely superior to the very expensive British airways
I don’t either. Always had good flights with them. They are after all Europe’s largest airline with most legacy airlines copying most of what they do, so they must be doing something right.Their service is definitely superior to the very expensive British airways
I haven't had a problem with Ryanair but that's because I've double-checked and triple-checked that I've jumped accurately through all their hoops regarding check-in, boarding passes, cabin baggage, hold baggage etc. I have the impression that they make their profit from the expensive charges imposed on passengers who fail to pass precisely through a hoop. And having to avoid this makes me feel more stressed when I fly with them.
All this said, once I'm in the air I've found the flying to be similar to other airlines, and I would consider flying with them again.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by LiskeardRich at 18:04, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Also puzzled at flying being quicker if there was an 8 hour layover.
I don't think the story ever claimed it to be quicker ...
From the newspaper clipping ...
On a flight you are guaranteed a seat, you don't have to stand up for hours on the train and it is quicker
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by grahame at 17:54, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Also puzzled at flying being quicker if there was an 8 hour layover.
I don't think the story ever claimed it to be quicker ...
From the newspaper clipping ...
On a flight you are guaranteed a seat, you don't have to stand up for hours on the train and it is quicker
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by Timmer at 17:17, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don’t get the negativity towards Ryanair. In fact I’ve found them to be one of the most on time airlines, and everything always very efficient. When I can fly to Krakow, Budapest or Geneva for less than £20 each way as well.
Their service is definitely superior to the very expensive British airways
I don’t either. Always had good flights with them. They are after all Europe’s largest airline with most legacy airlines copying most of what they do, so they must be doing something right.Their service is definitely superior to the very expensive British airways
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by Witham Bobby at 16:47, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For me the tedious part about flying is the airports. Having to set off early to allow for traffic delays - because if you miss your flight it's not usually the case that you can get another one soon after. At the airport itself feeling herded from one pen to the next, so many times; and the waiting at each pen. So many stages of processing. So many things to show at the various stages - and the worry of losing them. Searching for the one airside water point to refill a water bottle after going through security. Having to endure the weird smells of the 'perfumes' while trekking through the duty-free area. The expensive catering. Repeatedly checking for the screen that eventually shows which gate to go. I'm feeling tired just from thinking about it. Then there's the flight - and I admit there is 10 seconds of thrill as the pilot puts their metaphorical foot down at the start of the take-off. Then there's all the faff of the airport at the far end ...
For me flying is to be endured not enjoyed.
For me flying is to be endured not enjoyed.
100% agreed
Always it's the queues for the mandatory security checks that grip me. It's rare for there to be sufficient staff to prevent a big backlog. In those queues, 15 minutes can seem like forever, crushed in with so many other travellers. Sadly, a necessity after Lockerbie and 9/11
My first flight (aged about 12) was from Birmingham (then known as "Elmdon") to Belfast (shared with RAF Aldergrove, now Belfast International) on a Vickers Viscount, with British European Airways (BEA). White jacketed stewards served freshly brewed real coffee from silver jugs into china cups. And the thing is, the flight was about 45 minutes. These days BHX to Belfast George Best takes about an hour and 10 minutes. Another case of progress being backwards, and you can't just turn up at the airport and stroll out onto your plane
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by PrestburyRoad at 16:18, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For me the tedious part about flying is the airports. Having to set off early to allow for traffic delays - because if you miss your flight it's not usually the case that you can get another one soon after. At the airport itself feeling herded from one pen to the next, so many times; and the waiting at each pen. So many stages of processing. So many things to show at the various stages - and the worry of losing them. Searching for the one airside water point to refill a water bottle after going through security. Having to endure the weird smells of the 'perfumes' while trekking through the duty-free area. The expensive catering. Repeatedly checking for the screen that eventually shows which gate to go. I'm feeling tired just from thinking about it. Then there's the flight - and I admit there is 10 seconds of thrill as the pilot puts their metaphorical foot down at the start of the take-off. Then there's all the faff of the airport at the far end ...
For me flying is to be endured not enjoyed.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by Clan Line at 15:25, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Also puzzled at flying being quicker if there was an 8 hour layover.
I don't think the story ever claimed it to be quicker - they said they enjoyed their "eight hours in the sun............enjoying the sun, food and drinks". I'm pretty sure they weren't talking about Manchester

| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by JayMac at 14:54, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
But have to jump through hoops to get it, 2 photos etc, and not exactly available if you need it in few hours from some of the small stations on Looe branch.
A Two Together railcard can be applied for, purchased and activated in less than 10 minutes. All you need is a smartphone.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by John D at 13:50, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If you were to buy tickets for tomorrow, you could get an Advance Single for two for £196.80 from Looe to Crewe, with reserved seats between Liskeard and Crewe. This can be done simply by using the GWR app, without the need for split tickets, railcards, or unusual routes.
A two-together Railcard costs £30 for the year and would save £60 for that trip.
But have to jump through hoops to get it, 2 photos etc, and not exactly available if you need it in few hours from some of the small stations on Looe branch.
It's not as if the rail industry automatically discounted the fare by potential saving for an occasional traveller. All they have achieved is (very bad) publicity which suggests rail tickets are normally expensive, thus discouraging anyone (who doesn't normally use rail) from trying a rail journey.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by LiskeardRich at 13:30, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don’t get the negativity towards Ryanair. In fact I’ve found them to be one of the most on time airlines, and everything always very efficient. When I can fly to Krakow, Budapest or Geneva for less than £20 each way as well.
Their service is definitely superior to the very expensive British airways
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by grahame at 13:25, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Where was the car being picked up? Manchester or Crewe? What were their comparative first and last mile (or 30 mile) costs?
Edit - just picked up that she started from Lansallos - closer to Looe (which I presume is why the advance ticket suggestion that II made from one). Begins to look like a story with missing costs. Also puzzled at flying being quicker if there was an 8 hour layover.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by PhilWakely at 13:13, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A two-together Railcard costs £30 for the year and would save £60 for that trip.
Only after 9.30am Monday to Friday.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by IndustryInsider at 13:10, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If you were to buy tickets for tomorrow, you could get an Advance Single for two for £196.80 from Looe to Crewe, with reserved seats between Liskeard and Crewe. This can be done simply by using the GWR app, without the need for split tickets, railcards, or unusual routes.
A two-together Railcard costs £30 for the year and would save £60 for that trip.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by ray951 at 12:33, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Newspapers always love these stories. While the fare structure in this country is indeed absurd, we know that the £400 tickets are flexible, unlike air tickets. Additionally, air tickets are often priced with the assumption that you (or others) will pay for luggage and seat selection, which can often double the ticket price. This point is reiterated every time these stories are published.
If you were to buy tickets for tomorrow, you could get an Advance Single for two for £196.80 from Looe to Crewe, with reserved seats between Liskeard and Crewe. This can be done simply by using the GWR app, without the need for split tickets, railcards, or unusual routes.
| Re: Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by broadgage at 11:04, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Even a large saving would not induce me to fly Ryanair. I am opposed to air travel in general on environmental grounds and opposed to Ryanair in particular due to general discomfort and poor customer service..
| Even I would fly with Ryanair for this !! Posted by Clan Line at 09:10, 27th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| Re: Ryanair cutting 7 destinations for 2025 Posted by LiskeardRich at 18:23, 22nd January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Huge increases from the airport operator for landing and departure fees.
Ryanair have also announced a large number of new routes this summer
| Re: Ryanair cutting 7 destinations for 2025 Posted by ChrisB at 10:57, 22nd January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Due to ‘unjustified’ price hikes,
So you are right! Nothing to do with that proposed tax.
| Re: Ryanair cutting 7 destinations for 2025 Posted by infoman at 03:02, 22nd January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Nothing to do with the planned 100 per cent tax on those residents living outside the EU who would like to buy a property in Spain.
| Re: Ryanair cutting 7 destinations for 2025 Posted by anthony215 at 19:54, 20th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And they are increasing the Cardiff to Dublin route to daily except Wednesdays
| Ryanair cutting 7 destinations for 2025 Posted by sheepbingo at 19:31, 20th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the Metro
Ryanair is making a huge change to its 2025 schedule, and it’s not good news for the more than 17 million Brits who love a holiday to Spain.
Due to ‘unjustified’ price hikes, the airline will be scrapping or reducing routes to seven Spanish destinations.
It will be stopping all flights to and from:
Jerez (Cádiz)
Vallodolid
It will also reduce flights in and out of:
Vigo
Santiago de Compostela
Zaragoza
Santander
Asturias
Due to ‘unjustified’ price hikes, the airline will be scrapping or reducing routes to seven Spanish destinations.
It will be stopping all flights to and from:
Jerez (Cádiz)
Vallodolid
It will also reduce flights in and out of:
Vigo
Santiago de Compostela
Zaragoza
Santander
Asturias
Lots more explanation of the spat between Ryanair and Aena, Spain’s state-controlled airport operator. The reasons for scrapping the flights may be wrong, but perhaps this might push at least a few people to look at rail or ferry alternatives.
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by ChrisB at 19:41, 10th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
There have been bans where thought necessary by the CPS/courts
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by Timmer at 19:39, 10th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by LiskeardRich at 17:01, 10th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And Network Rail should get tough and recover all the compensation it pays out for bridge bashes too
I guess the difficulty there is that they are generally accidental?
Assume they claim from the vehicles insurers and then it’s up to the insurers whether they recover for negligence.
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:00, 10th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And Network Rail should get tough and recover all the compensation it pays out for bridge bashes too
I guess the difficulty there is that they are generally accidental?
Are there prosecutions when this happens? It's an interesting point.
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by Timmer at 16:48, 10th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And Network Rail should get tough and recover all the compensation it pays out for bridge bashes too
I guess the difficulty there is that they are generally accidental?
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:03, 10th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And Network Rail should get tough and recover all the compensation it pays out for bridge bashes too
I guess the difficulty there is that they are generally accidental?
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by John D at 08:05, 10th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
And Network Rail should get tough and recover all the compensation it pays out for bridge bashes too
| Re: Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion Posted by Timmer at 22:08, 9th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
About time airlines got tough with unruly passengers. Railways should do the same too.
| Ryanair - routes, schedules and incidents (merged posts) Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:26, 9th January 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Ryanair is pursuing legal action against a passenger who allegedly caused a major disruption on a flight from Dublin to Lanzarote.
The airline is seeking £12,500 in damages to cover expenses incurred when the plane had to divert to Porto, Portugal.
On Wednesday, the airline announced it had filed proceedings against the passenger, whose behaviour on the flight last April was described as "inexcusable" and "completely unacceptable".
Ryanair stated that it will "continue to take decisive action to combat unruly passenger behaviour on aircraft" in an effort to ensure the safety and comfort of all passengers.
The airline said the passenger's behaviour forced the flight in question to divert to Porto, where it was delayed overnight, and caused 160 passengers to "face unnecessary disruption as well as losing a full day of their holiday".
The damages sought would cover the cost of overnight accommodation and other expenses for the passengers affected by the diversion.
Announcing what the airline described as a "major clampdown", a spokesperson on the airline's website said, "It is unacceptable that passengers - many of whom are heading away with family or friends to enjoy a relaxing summer holiday - are suffering unnecessary disruption and reduced holiday time as a result of one unruly passenger's behaviour."
The airline added it hoped the civil proceedings in the Irish court would deter further disruptive behaviour on flights. The passenger has not been named.
Under EU laws, passengers are entitled to compensation for flights within the EU that are cancelled or delayed by three hours or more. Hotel accommodation must be offered free of charge if an overnight stay becomes necessary, as well as transport between the hotel and the airport along with a free meal and refreshments.
A passenger who disrupted a Ryanair flight to Athens in 2020 was convicted last month in a Greek court and given a five-month suspended jail sentence, along with a €400 ($412) fine.
BBC News has asked Ryanair for comment on the details of the incident.
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:09, 3rd September 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Again, purely for comparison purposes - although I do accept that we're not an airport, although within a few miles of one:
My local Wetherspoons in Nailsea sold me a good pint of guest ale recently for £2.60.

| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by JayMac at 15:38, 3rd September 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For comparison, all the ales at Heathrow, airside, are £5.05. Draught lagers and ciders range from £5.50 to £7.40.
Still noticeably cheaper than Mr O'Leary's onboard offerings.
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by Fourbee at 12:16, 3rd September 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A new Wetherspoons has opened at Waterloo today:
https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/news/new-pub-opening-the-lion-and-the-unicorn/
Thought I'd compare the cost of a guest ale in some of their London termini from their app:
Cannon St: £4.49
Liverpool St: £4.97
St Pancras: £4.97
Victoria: £4.97
Waterloo: £4.79
and a Greene King IPA (not what I would go for, but they all stock it):
Cannon St: £3.44
Liverpool St: £3.44
St Pancras: £3.44
Victoria: £3.44
Waterloo: £3.29
I believe the lowest tariff for a guest ale nationwide is £2.63 (except during beer festivals).
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 10:38, 3rd September 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Given the price of a pint at the Heathrow Spoons this summer, I'm amazed anyone has more than two drinks in the first place...
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:28, 2nd September 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From the BBC:
Sam Fox threatened to knock officer's teeth out

Samantha Fox was suffering from "severe anxiety" at the time, a court heard
Former model and singer Samantha Fox threatened to knock out a police officer's teeth after being removed from a British Airways plane, a court has heard.
Fox has pleaded guilty to being drunk and disorderly during the incident, which stopped the London Heathrow to Hamburg flight from taking off on 3 December.
Julianna Belinfante, prosecuting, told Uxbridge Magistrates' Court that flight staff had been made aware that Fox was was seen "walking and behaving strangely and was slurring her words, and staff could smell alcohol on her".
The 58-year-old was fined £1,000 and given a 12-month community order, including up to 25 rehabilitation activity requirement days.
Fox, who also admitted using threatening behaviour, causing harassment, alarm or distress to a police constable, began "behaving in a confrontational manner" towards her wife, Linda Olsen, while on the plane.
After the former model began "rocking back and forth in her chair, headbutting the seat in front of her" the decision was made to return to the gate, the court heard.
Police were then called to remove her from the plane.
Ms Belinfante said she was described by officers as "rude and argumentative" and was "verbally abusive" towards them as she was escorted from the airport.
Alastair Smith, who represented Fox, said his client had bought two drinks at the airport to "calm her nerves" as she was "suffering from severe anxiety".
A charge of assaulting her wife on the flight was dropped by prosecutors.
Mr Smith said: "She shouldn't have taken any flights as she was not in a fit state to do so. She should have cancelled her commitments, but it is not in her character to do so."
The flight, which was carrying 162 adults and four children, was delayed by 12 hours until 07:30 the next day, with 42 passengers claiming compensation, the court heard.
Fox was also ordered to pay £1,718 to British Airways, the sum the airline said it had lost as a result of the incident.
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by JayMac at 15:40, 29th August 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If that's what Mr O'Leary wants then the same limit should apply on board. Can't see him agreeing to that profit denting move though.
That said, at €6.25 (£5.27- equivalent to £9.07 a pint) for a 330ml can of beer on Ryanair, I'd limit myself to none. That price may go some way to explain why folk have a pint or three before boarding their Ryanair flight.
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:37, 28th August 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That's exactly ChrisB's point: all you need is a burly G4S person (other providers of security services are available) to take the inebriated potential aircraft passenger aside and tell them, "You cannot board this flight because you are under the influence of alcohol".

The rest of that: details as to any breath test, blood test, or whatever, can be argued later: meanwhile, all of the other passengers have not had their flight disrupted.
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by eXPassenger at 20:19, 28th August 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
One of the problems is that alcohol has a greater effect on the human body at lower air pressure as found in an aircraft cabin.
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by ChrisB at 16:25, 28th August 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It's the same psychology as for travelling to footie! Need to be plastered prior to arrival.
But the airlines can control this by simply refusing access to their flight if too drunk. Have you ever seen anyone turned away?
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by Timmer at 13:30, 28th August 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I really don’t get this strong desire to consume alcohol at an airport at 5am in the morning. Can’t it wait until they’ve arrived at their holiday destination?
| Re: Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports Posted by Witham Bobby at 11:30, 28th August 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Being on a flight when other passengers go beyond "boisterous" and into "obnoxious" is double plus ungood
Diverting to put them off the flight at the next available airport gives relief from the over-rowdyness, but just causes inconvenience to everyone else on board. But not putting them off the flight obliges everyone to put up with it.
I remember that licensees would not serve anyone who was intoxicated. Seems observance of this law has gone out the window
| Ryanair - routes, schedules and incidents (merged posts) Posted by grahame at 10:07, 28th August 2024 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From The BBC
Ryanair boss calls for two-drink limit at airports
Aeroplane passengers should be restricted to two drinks at airports, Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has said.
Mr O'Leary said introducing alcohol limits at airports would help tackle a rise in disorder on flights.
Violent outbursts are occurring weekly due to alcohol, he said, especially when it is mixed with other substances.
"We don't want to begrudge people having a drink," he told the Daily Telegraph, external.
"But we don't allow people to drink-drive, yet we keep putting them up in aircraft at 33,000ft."
Aeroplane passengers should be restricted to two drinks at airports, Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has said.
Mr O'Leary said introducing alcohol limits at airports would help tackle a rise in disorder on flights.
Violent outbursts are occurring weekly due to alcohol, he said, especially when it is mixed with other substances.
"We don't want to begrudge people having a drink," he told the Daily Telegraph, external.
"But we don't allow people to drink-drive, yet we keep putting them up in aircraft at 33,000ft."
Airport catering businesses may take a different view (perhaps calling for a MINIMUM of 2 drinks per person
). Of course, comparing a drink-driver to an aircraft passenger is naughty - he should compare a car driver to the pilot (who already cannot drink) or the flight passenger to the car, coach or train passenger














