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Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377701/32295/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:52, 2nd August 2026
 
Years ago, for reasons so obscure that I won't bore you with them here, I conveyed a folding table from Nailsea & Backwell to Melksham by train.

The dimensions of that table exceeded many surfboards, and it weighed considerably more, but I was able (just) to carry it from home to NLS, then from MKM to grahame's. The train journeys in between were no problem at all: I simply propped the table against the bulkhead in the cycle area, without inconveniencing any cycle rack users, obviously.

CfN. 

Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377700/32312/42]
Posted by grahame at 10:49, 2nd August 2026
 
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.

I found it interesting that the minister (?) replying on behalf of the government did not point out that his claim was wrong, but pointed out that electric trains will bring efficiencies ... which (he hoped) would include the minister's consituency.   I find myself wondering if GBR|SW in their timetable recast is considering terminating diesel trains from west of Basingstoke at Basingstoke, with connections from there onwards into London?

Re: Cannington Viaduct visit weekend
In "Railway History and related topics" [377699/32301/55]
Posted by GBM at 10:38, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Network AwayDay was the ticket name....

I seem to recall one of the TV comedy shows of the time suggesting a spicier railway product named a 'HaveItAwayDay' ticket.
I have now added this topic to the Coffee Shop forum's calendar. 

Which one? 
(Not a serious question)

Re: Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377698/32312/42]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:15, 2nd August 2026
 
The replies on Facebook are quite fun to read, but so far he doesn't seem to have explained what he has based his bizarre claim on.

Re: An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow?
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377697/32311/21]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 10:13, 2nd August 2026
 
We don't even need to look that far. The 398s being introduced in South Wales are based on the same tram-train platform and some of the extensions being done and planned in terms of street running are great examples for showing what you could do.

Diesel trains at Woking to soon be replaced by electrics?
In "South Western services" [377696/32312/42]
Posted by grahame at 09:43, 2nd August 2026
 
From Will Foster, MP for Woking

South Western Railway’s diesel trains will soon be replaced by electric trains.

With cancellations and delays already a big issue on the network serving #Woking, I’ve asked the Government to ensure that the rollout of new trains don’t add to the problem.

Has he heard something we have not?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2539177199864931

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377695/32295/51]
Posted by grahame at 09:32, 2nd August 2026
 
I do like the cheery GWR message on X/Twitter for those travelling to Boardmasters in Newquay next weekend, which concludes by sternly reminding those considering going by train that "surfboards are not permitted on long-distance services"

The Famous Five evidently shouldn't plan on going surfing by train! 

There is an argument that says that trains are MASS transit and should provided for the overwhelming majority of people.  On that basis, they can do without the few who wish to take skateboards, bicycles. mobility aids, prams and those with big packs or suitcases.   This is not an argument I would support.

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377694/18334/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 09:03, 2nd August 2026
 
Saturday. If you a passenger with an hourly service you need it to run. Okehampton went two hourly after the 1724hr so probably crew shortage.
Barnstaple after the 1335 departed at 1356 and the next train was 1639. Shoppers to Exeter on a Saturday will think twice before going by train or parents letting their children use the train.

It's when I read posts like that I really want to acknowledge and totally agree with you - but somehow using the "like" button conveys too positive a response.

Reliability is key to any public transport service.   Occasional failures for good external cause can be forgiven, but routine failure to provide the contracted and advertised service drives customers away. 

St Thomas had minimal effect on Okehampton and Barnstaple services. Some trains delayed getting through St David's due to platform occupancy.

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377693/18334/24]
Posted by RailCornwall at 08:39, 2nd August 2026
 
I've noted on some of the videos that were recorded that the platform information signs were still indicating no services on opening day.

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377692/32309/11]
Posted by grahame at 08:19, 2nd August 2026
 
Looking to see what's happening today ... updated on Journey Check at 04:52 on 2.8.2026 ... however most of the text reads like it did last night and says "Due to the severity of the fire, this has affected signalling and the overhead electricity power. We request that you do not travel from either Bristol Parkway or Bristol Temple Meads to Newport and Cardiff central for the rest of today as we cannot provide a rail service." and I would not like to hazard a guess as to whether the line will be open in any form today or not.  No doubt the next update (in two hours) or one after that will help tell us what's happening.

Far better info now ...

There has been a fire near the railway in the Marshfield area between Newport and Cardiff Central, which has affected signalling systems and the overhead electric power supply.
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What are we doing about it?
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Fewer trains are able to run between Newport and Cardiff Central, in both directions, and we will be running a reduced service.
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Trains between London Paddington and Swansea, via Cardiff Central, will run, in both directions.
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Trains between Cardiff Central and Portsmouth Harbour will start or finish their journey at Newport, depending on the direction of travel.
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Trains between Cardiff Central and Taunton/Exeter St David's will start or finish their journey at Bristol Temple Meads, depending on the direction of travel.
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Please check your intended journey on the National Rail Enquiries real-time journey planner which has been updated with the trains we are able to run. Your journey is likely to take longer and may involve more changes of train than usual.

And I note that the raft of bus alternative options is much reduced, probably reflecting those that actually run on a Sunday.

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377691/32295/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:09, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Mark A, GBM
 
I do like the cheery GWR message on X/Twitter for those travelling to Boardmasters in Newquay next weekend, which concludes by sternly reminding those considering going by train that "surfboards are not permitted on long-distance services"

The Famous Five evidently shouldn't plan on going surfing by train! 

An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow?
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [377690/32311/21]
Posted by grahame at 07:58, 2nd August 2026
 
Yesterday ... my first visit to Chemnitz, travelling through on the hourly train from Aue in Saxony that turned itself into a tram at Technopark, switched from diesel to electric, and combed in with other services to give a more frequent mass transit through the heart of the city and to the main railway station where I left it to continue out on the other side. It's not unique - I have arrived in Saabrucken on a tram that started on a train. And in the UK, we have a similar system in Sheffield though I have not travelled on it.   

The idea seems sensible and appears to work well - so why has it not seen wider adoption, and might it work in places like Bristol and Bath, Exeter and Plymouth, Southampton and Swindon?




















Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377689/18334/24]
Posted by grahame at 07:32, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Fourbee
 
Saturday. If you a passenger with an hourly service you need it to run. Okehampton went two hourly after the 1724hr so probably crew shortage.
Barnstaple after the 1335 departed at 1356 and the next train was 1639. Shoppers to Exeter on a Saturday will think twice before going by train or parents letting their children use the train.

It's when I read posts like that I really want to acknowledge and totally agree with you - but somehow using the "like" button conveys too positive a response.

Reliability is key to any public transport service.   Occasional failures for good external cause can be forgiven, but routine failure to provide the contracted and advertised service drives customers away. 

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377688/18334/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 07:08, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Saturday. If you a passenger with an hourly service you need it to run. Okehampton went two hourly after the 1724hr so probably crew shortage.
Barnstaple after the 1335 departed at 1356 and the next train was 1639. Shoppers to Exeter on a Saturday will think twice before going by train or parents letting their children use the train.

Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377687/32262/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 07:04, 2nd August 2026
 
The portacabin ticket office was at Paignton Saturday but closed. A 5 car voyager came in from Manchester 47 late at 1941 and left for Bristol at 1947 using platform 2 instead of it's usual shunt via the crossover.
I was there at 1700 to see the Kingswear-Shrewsbury train depart at 1727 which waited just off the platform so it could pass through without stopping when the signal cleared to yellow. As usual there were no staff on the station after 1700 and there were people on platform 1; train spotters like me?. The gate to the platform has been locked since the fire so I don't know how they got there.

Re: Walking - and the right to roam.
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [377686/32293/50]
Posted by CyclingSid at 06:46, 2nd August 2026
 
Note also the long and no doubt expensive litigation about right to roam/camping on Dartmoor.

Re: Network Rail press release: passengers and luggage
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377685/32295/51]
Posted by CyclingSid at 06:43, 2nd August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
When is luggage not luggage? Is a folded bike luggage? What about bikes in general?

Regrettably the new SWR Arterio trains suggest that whoever specs these things has not made any progress on the bike storage front. Time for some training in this area for GBR by Active Travel England (ATE)?

Re: On this day - August has been quieter times - anything to report?
In "News, Help and Assistance" [377684/32310/29]
Posted by grahame at 06:28, 2nd August 2026
 
Oh ... look what I have found for today from https://www.onthisday.com/events/august/2
1870 Tower Subway, the world's first underground tube railway, opens in London
1873 First trial run of San Francisco cable car in Clay Street between Kearny and Jones

Tower Subway certainly worth adding if the day can be confirmed ... I probably won't add the cable car as it's a bit distant

On this day - August has been quieter times - anything to report?
In "News, Help and Assistance" [377683/32310/29]
Posted by grahame at 06:22, 2nd August 2026
 
I have the following events listed, but neither reference nor linked thread:
0815   2012   Virgin pulls out of further franchise bids
0827   1939   First Jet Aircraft flight
0830   1906   Fishguard Harbour station opened
0831   1966   Harrier Jump Jet makes first flight

And August tends to be those quiet days when nothing happens, and we have no "on this day" public transport events listed for 2nd, 6th, 9th, 16th, 17th, 20th, 23rd, 24th or 29th.   In contrast, we have 3 for 11th, and looking wider we have 5 events on each of 4th February, 1st and 6th May, and 1st July.

Members are more than welcome to tell me - or tell readers - what has happened on any of these quieter days and I'll add them to the "On this day" index.  Positive stories especially welcome!

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377682/32309/11]
Posted by grahame at 06:05, 2nd August 2026
 
Looking to see what's happening today ... updated on Journey Check at 04:52 on 2.8.2026 ... however most of the text reads like it did last night and says "Due to the severity of the fire, this has affected signalling and the overhead electricity power. We request that you do not travel from either Bristol Parkway or Bristol Temple Meads to Newport and Cardiff central for the rest of today as we cannot provide a rail service." and I would not like to hazard a guess as to whether the line will be open in any form today or not.  No doubt the next update (in two hours) or one after that will help tell us what's happening.

Re: 1st August 2026 - direct train Avonciff to Weymouth
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [377681/32206/34]
Posted by grahame at 05:58, 2nd August 2026
 
I understand that 15 people joined the train - it left a couple of minutes down but was back on time within a handful of stops. A photo appeared on my social media feeds but, as these things do, flashed by and I can't find it again. I do notice that the group photo on the platform showed everyone crammed behind the yellow line.

Big "thank you" to GWR for arranging the extra stop - really enjoyed day out, and good marketing for Avoncliff.

Re: [otd] 8th August (1898) - opening of the Waterloo and City line
In "Transport for London" [377680/32307/46]
Posted by grahame at 05:36, 2nd August 2026
 
It's only 01.08 today - you're a week ahead of yourself?

I rather think grahame was asking for contributions ready to start a new topic on 8 August.  I started a new topic on the Wantage Tramway today, so grahame could add it to 'OTD', but that was done somewhat at the last minute.

Indeed I am "seeding" a thread. "On this day" headlines a topic from midnight to midnight on the day in question, and it has struck me a number of times that something that comes up there without a reference thread results in a bit of a rushed addition of a thread reference / response.  Not necessarily a bad thing though the addition of the link is something which relies on a piece of kludge "webmaster only" code that puts urgent action solely onto me.   It's not a huge issue in the history of mankind (or even of the coffee shop) but in this case I chose to sew the seeds early.

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377679/32309/11]
Posted by WelshBluebird at 23:55, 1st August 2026
 
However, as I type, the 2C97, 22:47 Cardiff-Bristol, has halted between Pengam and Wentloog and is signalled to go back towards Cardiff.

Not exactly ideal given its the last train and especially on a Saturday is usually very very busy (I dont understand why there isn't s later service like there is on other nights). Feel sorry for the passengers and whoever has to deal with the situation at Cardiff!

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377678/32309/11]
Posted by Trowres at 23:33, 1st August 2026
 
Two separate incidents are involved, although information is sparse.

There was a fire at the Star Trading Estate in the early hours of the morning that caused cancellation of several early morning services, but seems to have been sorted out  by 07:00 (the fire itself looked rather severe: see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrvkp87e1xo.

The second fire was described on Journeycheck as "in the Marshfield area" but may have been a bit closer to Newport, but definitely west of Ebbw Junction. Last train through appeared to be a Cardiff-Exeter IET at about 14:15.

After that, nearly all train services were cancelled. The number turning back at Newport was small and the Ebbw Vale services also disappeared.

Interestingly, though, a small number of trains did make it between Newport and Cardiff using the relief line. There were Newport-Cardiff ad-hoc services running as 1O01 ... 1O06 and a Penzance-Cardiff 2U32 (1645 off Penzance) that reached Cardiff at 22:53; 37 minutes late.

However, as I type, the 2C97, 22:47 Cardiff-Bristol, has halted between Pengam and Wentloog and is signalled to go back towards Cardiff.

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377677/18334/24]
Posted by johnneyw at 22:53, 1st August 2026
 
Here's the Beeb's news coverage of today's opening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdzyyv7g8o

Re: [otd] 8th August (1898) - opening of the Waterloo and City line
In "Transport for London" [377676/32307/46]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:05, 1st August 2026
 
I rather think grahame was asking for contributions ready to start a new topic on 8 August.  I started a new topic on the Wantage Tramway today, so grahame could add it to 'OTD', but that was done somewhat at the last minute.



Re: [otd] 8th August (1898) - opening of the Waterloo and City line
In "Transport for London" [377675/32307/46]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:40, 1st August 2026
 
It's only 01.08 today - you're a week ahead of yourself?

Re: Off peak ticket, travel involves a connection, peak time services
In "Fare's Fair" [377674/32304/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:35, 1st August 2026
 
Bearing in mind that you need to produce evidence of your Eurostar ticket to obtain that - hence only being able to purchase in person

Re: Lineside fire 01/08/2026
In "London to South Wales" [377673/32309/11]
Posted by bobm at 19:33, 1st August 2026
 
Journeycheck is reporting the fire is at Marshfield which is west of Newport. 

Re: East West Rail Timetable
In "Chiltern Railways services" [377672/29004/44]
Posted by ChrisB at 18:50, 1st August 2026
 
I'm informed that these additional staff are NOT safety-critical (I thought they were?) and Bletchley-MKC is not DOO compliant, which I did know.

 
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