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Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare?
In "Fare's Fair" [377462/32282/4]
Posted by grahame at 16:50, 27th July 2026
 
I did the same on the GWR site with the same result.

There is this on BR Fares concerning the £21.40 ticket.


When it says "VIA WESTBURY" does it mean that the ticket is only valid when changing trains at Westbury or does it cover trains that stop at Westbury and go onto Taunton from where I can change and get a train to Bristol?

A "via" does not mean that a stop is needed, and indeed it's valid if the train takes an avoiding line. - the curve at Didcot, the Rhubarb Loop,  the Weston avoider.

Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare?
In "Fare's Fair" [377461/32282/4]
Posted by hoover50 at 16:33, 27th July 2026
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I did the same on the GWR site with the same result.

There is this on BR Fares concerning the £21.40 ticket.


When it says "VIA WESTBURY" does it mean that the ticket is only valid when changing trains at Westbury or does it cover trains that stop at Westbury and go onto Taunton from where I can change and get a train to Bristol?

Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare?
In "Fare's Fair" [377460/32282/4]
Posted by bobm at 16:28, 27th July 2026
 
I did the same on the GWR site with the same result.

There is this on BR Fares concerning the £21.40 ticket.


Re: Memories of Childhood - "I never knew that"
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [377459/32281/47]
Posted by Mark A at 16:27, 27th July 2026
 
Not on your line, and before your time, an opportunity to absorb the landscape of that part of London as it was in the early 1870s. Camille Pissarro's painting of Lordship Lane station.

Mark

https://www.camillepissarro.org/lordship-lane-station-dulwich.jsp

Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare?
In "Fare's Fair" [377458/32282/4]
Posted by grahame at 16:25, 27th July 2026
 
Others may find different but to me that £21.40 fare to Bristol Temple Meads seems to be valid only via Westbury.

I suspect that the routing guide from Pewsey to Bristol does not allow via Taunton.  I put in the Pewsey to Bristol journey in the TransPennine Express ticket engine which lets you add a "via" and with a "via Taunton" it said no journeys - so, sorry, no break of journey in that way is rather confirmed.  

I changed Bristol to Worle looking for a price either way round, and the price went up through the roof

Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare?
In "Fare's Fair" [377457/32282/4]
Posted by hoover50 at 16:22, 27th July 2026
 
Others may find different but to me that £21.40 fare to Bristol Temple Meads seems to be valid only via Westbury.
How can I check / confirm that please?

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377456/31371/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 16:18, 27th July 2026
 
Monday 27th July 2026

According to RTT

1W21 1053 Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill was cancelled after Oxford "due to an unknown cause".

The service had departed Paddington 9 minutes late, remained at around that much delayed until Reading, from where it departed 27 minutes down, and expired at Oxford also 27 minutes late.

The return working, 1P26 1316 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington, did not run between Worcester and Oxford, also because of "an unknown cause"

Re: Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare?
In "Fare's Fair" [377455/32282/4]
Posted by bobm at 16:12, 27th July 2026
 
Others may find different but to me that £21.40 fare to Bristol Temple Meads seems to be valid only via Westbury.

Can I Break My Journey at Weston-super-Mare?
In "Fare's Fair" [377454/32282/4]
Posted by hoover50 at 15:59, 27th July 2026
 
An off-peak return from Pewsey to Weston-Super-Mare costs an eye-watering £103.60

However, going via Bristol Temple Meads and splitting the tickets at Bristol Temple Meads brings the off-peak return cost down to £30.70 which is quite a saving.

Going one step further, would I be allowed to use an off-peak return from Pewsey to Bristol Temple Meads via Taunton (costing £21.40) and then break my journey at Weston-Super-Mare?

Memories of Childhood - "I never knew that"
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [377453/32281/47]
Posted by grahame at 15:42, 27th July 2026
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From Facebook

SYDENHAM HILL STATION & ITS HIGHWAY TO HELL.  Built for the Palace: Opened in 1863 to serve the Crystal Palace, it sits right at the mouth of the massive 2km Penge Tunnel.  The station dropped "for Crystal Palace" from its name in 1936—the year the Palace burned down. Very active station to present day.

In my youth, I travelled by train to school - from Petts Wood to Sydenham Hill for four years, then to Sevenoaks for a further four, and finally after a year break to Holborn Viaduct (with brief diversions to Charing Cross and back to Sevenoaks) for a further four.

Penge tunnel was a daily passage - twice a day, and yet this article has for the first time made me think of its history; I was young at the time, so I could tell you a lot more about the other that came when I was just a handful of years older.

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377452/32151/51]
Posted by stuving at 15:04, 27th July 2026
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With an incoming interim MD so quickly, I would think that "thems in the know" at EMR didn't find Will Roger departure yesterday quite so sudden.

I was going to say that if this interim MD was an internal appointment - as Neil Grabham's replacement at Merseyrail was - it could be done instantly so would not tell you that. But in fact both EMR and Merseyrail are owned by Transport UK (Abellio UK as was), so it does count as internal.

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377451/32151/51]
Posted by grahame at 13:52, 27th July 2026
 
From The Business Desk

Rogers said he was leaving to spend more time with his family after what he described as a privilege to lead the organisation.

He said: “It has been a privilege to lead EMR since 2020 and to support our teams through a period of significant change. I am sad to say goodbye to a business and to colleagues who have meant so much to me. I have been incredibly fortunate to work alongside such talented, committed and caring people, and I will always be grateful for the experiences, friendships and memories we’ve shared. But it is the right time for me to step back and spend some more time with my family, and I would like to thank you all for your support, your friendship and for allowing me to be part of this journey. It has been a privilege.”

and

Neil Grabham will take on the role of interim managing director, returning to EMR after three years as managing director of Merseyrail, which has consistently ranked among the UK’s top rail operators for train performance and customer satisfaction.

Grabham previously held the position of customer services director at EMR and is expected to focus on maintaining continuity across the business, with priorities including safety, fleet performance and customer service.

Grabham said: “I am genuinely pleased to be returning to EMR on an interim basis and to have the opportunity to work alongside colleagues once again. EMR has always held a special place for me, and I know first-hand the dedication, professionalism and commitment that exists across the business. I look forward to reconnecting with colleagues and supporting the team as we continue to deliver for our customers and communities.”

With an incoming interim MD so quickly, I would think that "thems in the know" at EMR didn't find Will Roger departure yesterday quite so sudden.

Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377450/26929/52]
Posted by grahame at 13:47, 27th July 2026
 
Not sure they'll stop on the return though? (Are they going to add a full border post there?)

All the reports I have seen state that there will not be an Antwerp stop in the opposite direction and changing trains at Brussels, to complete immigration checks, will be required.

Indeed.  Perhaps in a parallel universe, the UK would have been a part of the Schengen zone (and indeed remained in the EU) and travel from Belgium to the UK would have been as easy as crossing the German - Poland border which I think we have done 4 times in the last few days.   I say "I think" - I know we did it twice on the train, but I think that the rail replacement bus from Goerlitz to Zittau took us from Germany into Poland and back into Germany again.

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377449/32151/51]
Posted by grahame at 13:28, 27th July 2026
 
RAIL Magazine are reporting "Will Rogers, Managing Director at EMR, has left with immediate effect".   Article is behind a paywall so I don't know if any reasons given.

AI on Google has given us a tiny bit more - or is it just a rewording with some assumption? 

The Managing Director (MD) of East Midlands Railway (EMR) was Will Rogers, who led the company from January 2020 until his departure in July 2026. An interim successor or permanent replacement announcement from parent company Transport UK is expected following his sudden exit

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377448/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 13:22, 27th July 2026
 
National Rail has a bit more

Route(s) affected

Great Western Railway between Cardiff Central and Portsmouth Harbour and also between Bristol Temple Meads and Warminster / Salisbury

South Western Railway between Yeovil Junction / Yeovil Pen Mill and Salisbury, and also between Yeovil Junction and London Waterloo

Description

A fault with the signalling system between Warminster and Salisbury means that trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines. As a result, trains running between these stations may be delayed by up to 20 minutes.
Disruption is expected until 14:00.

Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377447/32151/51]
Posted by bobm at 13:13, 27th July 2026
 
RAIL Magazine are reporting "Will Rogers, Managing Director at EMR, has left with immediate effect".   Article is behind a paywall so I don't know if any reasons given.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377446/31359/18]
Posted by John D at 12:42, 27th July 2026
 
Congestion causing problems in Salisbury area

Due to congestion at Salisbury fewer trains are able to run on some lines.
Impact:
Train services running through this station will be cancelled or delayed by up to 35 minutes. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer Advice:
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What has happened?
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Due to congestion in the Salisbury area, rail traffic through the station and surrounding junctions is currently restricted. Passengers may experience cancellations, alterations, or extended journey times while congestion is managed.

https://www.gwr.com/travel-information/travel-updates/live-network-updates


Re: Station fire at Paignton. Footbridge?
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377445/32262/24]
Posted by Phantom at 12:03, 27th July 2026
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I can see them....and I'm not logged in for years!

Me too, but they don't enlarge, I would guess that is the point being made

Re: Interrail trip 4 - the journey continues
In "Introductions and chat" [377444/32275/1]
Posted by grahame at 10:43, 27th July 2026
 
[snip]... I suspect you have been there, Dave 

I have indeed Grahame,  many times over the years.

My first visit was July 1991 when the Harz system, including freight, was still run by DR (Deutsche Reichsbahn) as part of the local public transport network.
The Brocken had not yet re-opened following re-unification and there was still a Russian outpost at the summit.
Steam still reigned supreme and regular parallel departures from Eisfelder Talmühle and Alexisbad were a sight to behold and clearly a source of pride amongst the loco crews!
Gernerode to Quendlingburg was still standard gauge and had a passenger service.  The connection with the Nordhausen tram network probably hadn't even reached the drawing board stage
A major part of the Harz network ran in "green tunnels" through dense coniferous forest well before the beetle struck leading to the present almost post-apocalyptic landscape - but much better distant views!

Dave

Fascinating insight Dave, thank you.   This was my third visit - on my first I did the main tourist thing to The Brocken from Wernigerode - no stop overnight in the town, rather part of a day as I passed through.  My second I passed though from Quedlinburg to Nordhausen, taking a railbus to Alexisbad, a steam train to Eisfelder Talmühle and another railbus to Nordhausen.  And on the third trip - this one - I "almost completed" the network by taking the train from Wernigerode to Eisfelder Talmühle, and on the following day revisited The Brocken with Lisa.   We also had a chance to look around the town centre and found much, much more there than a mere interchange.

The """Restaurant 1835"/Hotel Altora dining room, Wernigerode.  Drinks and desserts delivered by train!"" was chosen as a must-do-once experience and we are glad we did it, but like Stonehenge it's a one off bucket list thing and not something we would repeat.  The room was lovely, although a couple of aspects suggested that the architect who put it together hadn't actually stayed there.  The staff, sadly, confirmed a previous Trip Advisor reviewer's feedback that priority was given to German guests and British visitors were offered only a lower and slower standard of table and service.

From Eisfelder Talmühle ... parallel trains departed towards Alexisbad and Wernigerode at 13:47, but the Alexisbad service this year is a railbus ... which drew up and waited so that it could leave in parallel. The line onward from there  towards Nordhausen is rail replacement buses as present as far as Ifield, where you transfer to the tram that shares the same line.

Probably easier on a map ... taken from the table in the trains



The section from Drei Annen Hohne to Eisfelder Talmühle is very much the lesser for me to suggest to others - yes, the forests are gone and at this time of year it's a sea of purple willow herbs and skeletons of trees






Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377443/26929/52]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:53, 27th July 2026
 
Not sure they'll stop on the return though? (Are they going to add a full border post there?)

All the reports I have seen state that there will not be an Antwerp stop in the opposite direction and changing trains at Brussels, to complete immigration checks, will be required.

Re: West Somerset Railway - Bishops Lydeard, near Taunton, to Minehead
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [377442/2688/47]
Posted by REVUpminster at 07:19, 27th July 2026
 
I've noticed since the heatwave tour trains to Kingswear haven't picked up a steam locomotive at Taunton.

Is this because of the fire risk to the trackside. There was a fire near Goodrington on Saturday.

Oddly enough I remember years ago London Underground had a tour train with a preserved LT tank engine and it set fire to a lot of hedges between Upminster and Barking.

Whoops! I've just read the thread below and didn't realise Network Rail has banned them from the mainline. Never been a steam engine or diesel buff.

Re: Okehampton
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377441/18334/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 20:59, 26th July 2026
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1st August is now the fancied date for Okehampton Interchange to open.



RealTime trains showing trains stopping from 1st August

Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed
In "South Western services" [377440/25368/42]
Posted by Mark A at 20:29, 26th July 2026
 
'Time Out' article.

"Two beautiful towns could get direct trains to London
Campaigners in Wiltshire want to reinstate direct trains from London to Trowbridge and Bradford-on-Avon"

Mark

https://www.timeout.com/london/news/beautiful-wiltshire-towns-direct-trains-london-072626

Re: Interrail trip 4 - the journey continues
In "Introductions and chat" [377439/32275/1]
Posted by DR7835 at 19:40, 26th July 2026
 
3; Wernigerode Westerntor station with the works just behind the hedge on the left.  Note the "heritage" train information display fixed to the lamp post!
5; Eisfelder Talmühle.  Railcar for Gernerode?
6; Drei Annen Hohne. Junction for the Brocken.
9; "Restaurant 1835"/Hotel Altora dining room, Wernigerode.  Drinks and desserts delivered by train!

Dave


All correct, as is the extra information - I suspect you have been there, Dave 


I have indeed Grahame,  many times over the years.

My first visit was July 1991 when the Harz system, including freight, was still run by DR (Deutsche Reichsbahn) as part of the local public transport network.
The Brocken had not yet re-opened following re-unification and there was still a Russian outpost at the summit.
Steam still reigned supreme and regular parallel departures from Eisfelder Talmühle and Alexisbad were a sight to behold and clearly a source of pride amongst the loco crews!
Gernerode to Quendlingburg was still standard gauge and had a passenger service.  The connection with the Nordhausen tram network probably hadn't even reached the drawing board stage
A major part of the Harz network ran in "green tunnels" through dense coniferous forest well before the beetle struck leading to the present almost post-apocalyptic landscape - but much better distant views!

Dave

Re: Pigeons at railway stations causing problems
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377438/32277/51]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 19:31, 26th July 2026
 
How times have changed.

I am old enough to remember when the Min of Ag (then MAFF, now DEFRA) used to pay you for shooting pigeons. I believe the rate was 6d (=2 1/5 p).

I am old enough to remember when pigeons were viewed as so cute there was a kids' TV programme about them…

Re: More problems at Paignton.
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377437/32280/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 17:57, 26th July 2026
 
Oddly the Paignton masterplan of 2015 envisaged an open crossing with no cars, only pedestrians. The trains would be going as in this case slow enough to stop. A Voyager is shown in the image. The tall statement building is on the site of Poundland and SportsDirect.

Paignton Town Square 2015 adopted masterplan by Robert, on Flickr

Re: WOMAD comes to Wiltshire - nearest station, Melksham, July 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377436/31642/18]
Posted by JohnM at 17:18, 26th July 2026
 
Which leaves a gap of about 4 hours each way ... and I think festival go-ers will be headed home?
Not until tomorrow morning if they want to see tonight's acts. Campsite must be vacated by midday.

Re: Eurostar - merged posts, ongoing discussion topic
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [377435/26929/52]
Posted by ChrisB at 17:06, 26th July 2026
 
Eurostar launching direct Antwerp trains

Stop being added to London - Amsterdam trains.

Not sure they'll stop on the return though? (Are they going to add a full border post there?)

Re: More problems at Paignton.
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377434/32280/24]
Posted by ChrisB at 16:58, 26th July 2026
 
A year ago, it ought to be said. Not recent.

More problems at Paignton.
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [377433/32280/24]
Posted by JayMac at 16:50, 26th July 2026
 
This time, man's best friend causing the train to paws...



I'll leave others to comment on the merits, or otherwise, of trespassing instead of waiting for railway staff, and crawling under a train...

 
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