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OTD - Queen Victoria was the first reigning British monarch to travel on a train
In "Railway History and related topics" [375951/32130/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:06, 13th June 2026
 
The first journey by a reigning British monarch on a train was made by Queen Victoria on June 13, 1842. She traveled on the British Royal Train from Slough to London’s Paddington Station, completing the trip in 25 minutes.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375950/31359/18]
Posted by froome at 21:27, 13th June 2026
 
Just to add to that. If running slowly though the signals isn't possible, why are trains not running as far as the previous station and then returning, on all lines? At present, nobody can get from Bath to Bristol by train, and I very much doubt whether anyone can by bus either as the services would already have been packed. And yet this line, as far as I know, isn't where the signalling problem is.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375949/31359/18]
Posted by froome at 20:56, 13th June 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
I have heard that Bath Spa station has been shut. We were caught up by this problem as we were on the 17.00 train from Freshford to Bath which eventually ended up returning to Freshford. Certainly amongst the group I was with, many ended up walking back to Bath (about 7 or 8 miles along the canal). We rang for a taxi.

I cannot believe that GWR cannot run trains slowly past the signals that are causing the problem. They couldn't have picked a worse day for this to happen.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375948/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 20:53, 13th June 2026
 
Ouch, this has coincided with an open day at Bath University and an event at the racecourse.

Mark

Yeah ...   From Wiltshire 999

Horrendous scenes at Bath Spa railway station — where hundreds of people are stranded due to delays and cancellations.




Re: GWR First Class fares increases 5 July 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [375947/32128/4]
Posted by plymothian at 20:16, 13th June 2026
 
They are available on any GWR service that normally has 1st class, as a walk up on-train upgrade bought from the guard or TE, where space is available (ie any seat unreserved for the duration of the journey undertaken) - same as Weekend First.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375946/31359/18]
Posted by Mark A at 20:11, 13th June 2026
 
Ouch, this has coincided with an open day at Bath University and an event at the racecourse.

Mark

Re: Random questions - 24 July 2022
In "The Lighter Side" [375945/26571/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:56, 13th June 2026
 
Returning to this topic rather belatedly ... 

3. Crewe.  Not the one in Cheshire, but the one in Virginia, USA, at their Railroad Museum.

Sorry for my inadvertently digging up a very historic topic 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375944/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 19:44, 13th June 2026
 
We are expecting some road transport to operate from Bath Spa station. However, the first of these is not expected until about 19:30. Customers at Chippenham are advised to travel to Swindon and change for diverted services to Bristol Temple Meads.

Isn't the road outside Bath Spa shut too?

Manvers Street (opposite) is.   Dorchester Street which leads past the bus station to Bath Spa railway station is basically a cut-de-sac at present.

In an emergency / with rail replacement buses they could be running from the bus station.  There are a number of free bays at the moment because of bus services cut back to the Hilton Hotel

Re: Where was I today? - 2 July 2022
In "The Lighter Side" [375943/26509/30]
Posted by grahame at 19:38, 13th June 2026
 
I think 1 is Weymouth. 

It is ... a now historic picture I think as the snails have been displaced from the beach

Re: Where was I today? - 2 July 2022
In "The Lighter Side" [375942/26509/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:24, 13th June 2026
 
I think 1 is Weymouth. 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375941/31359/18]
Posted by ChrisB at 19:05, 13th June 2026
 
We are expecting some road transport to operate from Bath Spa station. However, the first of these is not expected until about 19:30. Customers at Chippenham are advised to travel to Swindon and change for diverted services to Bristol Temple Meads.

Isn't the road outside Bath Spa shut too?

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375940/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:44, 13th June 2026
 

 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [375939/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:27, 13th June 2026
 
17:37 Swindon to Westbury due 18:22
18:35 Westbury to Swindon due 19:17

18:35 Westbury to Swindon due 19:17 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.

And I suspect this is the root cause ...

Cancellations to services between Chippenham and Bristol Temple Meads

Due to a fault with the signalling system between Chippenham and Bristol Temple Meads all lines are blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or diverted. Bath Spa and Chippenham will not be served. Disruption is expected until 19:30 13/06.
Customer Advice
The signals outside of Bath Spa station have failed. This is severely affecting our ability to run trains in the Bath Spa area.

Train services between Bristol Temple Meads and London Paddington are diverting, running straight to Swindon. Services between Bristol Temple Meads and Westbury are subject to delay or alteration. There are currenrly very few services running through Bath Spa. Road transport has been requested but with no reasonable timescale on when this might be in place.

We are expecting some road transport to operate from Bath Spa station. However, the first of these is not expected until about 19:30. Customers at Chippenham are advised to travel to Swindon and change for diverted services to Bristol Temple Meads.

Re: GWR accused of disrupting Wales-England train links
In "Across the West" [375933/32097/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:58, 13th June 2026
 
There still are summer Saturday trains from Pembroke Dock to London Paddington - today's at 10:02 and 15:02

https://www.railwaymagazine.co.uk/25448/from-the-archive-the-fishguard-boat-express/ is an interesting potted history of the Fishguard train but does not give an exact date it last ran.  From https://historseye.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/britains-last-boat-trains/:
Fishguard was famously served by Great Western HSTs from London Paddington until 2003

From the Western Telegraph:
Welsh Labour has pledged to deliver a direct rail connection between Milford Haven and London as part of its wider plan to improve public transport and  boost regional connectivity.
There were a number of Wales and West services into London Waterloo to support Eurostar when it ran from there from places such as Manchester and Maesteg - and I have vague memories that there might have been one from Milford Haven?  Otherwise it was a long time ago

Ironically.......

08:48 London Paddington to Pembroke Dock due 13:50
08:48 London Paddington to Pembroke Dock due 13:50 was terminated at Swansea.
It will no longer call at Llanelli, Pembrey & Burry Port, Carmarthen, Whitland, Saundersfoot, Tenby, Manorbier, Pembroke and Pembroke Dock.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

15:02 Pembroke Dock to London Paddington due 20:13
15:02 Pembroke Dock to London Paddington due 20:13 will be started from Swansea.
It will no longer call at Pembroke Dock, Pembroke, Lamphey, Manorbier, Penally, Tenby, Saundersfoot, Kilgetty, Narberth, Whitland, Carmarthen, Pembrey & Burry Port and Llanelli.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: GWR First Class fares increases 5 July 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [375932/32128/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:18, 13th June 2026
 
So what's the availability on these? Any empty 1st class off-peak seat? How do you know that the seat isn't already reserved further down the line?

Worth checking these before buying a Seatfrog upgrade I guess - you don't want a Seatfrog where the 1U1 fare is less....

Re: Daily services extended to give wider through trains
In "Across the West" [375931/32114/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 12:15, 13th June 2026
 
Last Saturday and today GWR have cancelled all London-Paignton trains advising travellers to change trains where necessary.

Just to clarify, these are planned cancellations due to the Berks & Hants Line closure for engineering works.

A shame that some form of shuttle service couldn't have operated between Paignton and Exeter/Taunton or perhaps even Westbury.

Normal service resumes from next weekend.


2 car 150s not much use. 14 175's at Laira haven't provided any extra cover. A planned training/proving run on Tuesday to Goodrington sidings was cancelled.

Re: GWR First Class fares increases 5 July 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [375930/32128/4]
Posted by plymothian at 11:41, 13th June 2026
 
Mid-week first upgrades are essentially the same as Weekend First upgrades for Monday - Friday.  They're generally 2x the price of a Weekend First, and have a child fare which is half the adult price (whereas FWF are flat fares whether adult or child).
If you look on BRFares, they're the GWR WEEKDAY UPG 1U1 fares.

Originally introduced as a fare-by-fare equivalent, ie a SSS > 1U1 was dearer than an SOS > 1U1, but changed to a flat fare, so SSS > 1U1 is more value for money.

Re: GWR Evening Day Returns, Exeter area trial.
In "Fare's Fair" [375929/32117/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:56, 13th June 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, eXPassenger
 
Evenings start at 1700.....that's the etiquette time for saying "Good Evening", rather than "Good Afternoon" or "Good Day"

Re: Daily services extended to give wider through trains
In "Across the West" [375928/32114/26]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:44, 13th June 2026
 
Last Saturday and today GWR have cancelled all London-Paignton trains advising travellers to change trains where necessary.

Just to clarify, these are planned cancellations due to the Berks & Hants Line closure for engineering works.

A shame that some form of shuttle service couldn't have operated between Paignton and Exeter/Taunton or perhaps even Westbury.

Normal service resumes from next weekend.

Re: GWR First Class fares increases 5 July 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [375927/32128/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 10:40, 13th June 2026
 
What are mid-week First Upgrades? Not sure they've been discussed/mentioned before?

Also, Avanti's 1st class are going up 10% too....

GWR First Class fares increases 5 July 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [375926/32128/4]
Posted by plymothian at 10:33, 13th June 2026
 
GWR are increasing most their owned first class fares by 5% from 5 July 2026, including advance fares.

Additionally, Weekend First and mid-week first upgrades will increase by £5 across the board.

Re: Bridge strike 11/6/26 WCML between Rugby and Nuneaton
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [375925/32118/51]
Posted by John D at 10:09, 13th June 2026
 
A number of photos have been circulated showing the Mercedes truck with private registration plate both at the scene, and the road after it went.

Hopefully Network Rail reclaim cost of the bridge rebuild and their direct losses (costs of compensation to Operators)

Doesn't appear many news stories mentioned delay repay, and railway Operators sites often seem to only mention it at end of many paragraphs about disruption rather than prominent.

I guess Operators get compensation from Network Rail, and any losses on Delay Repay are effectively covered by DfT anyway.


Re: Daily services extended to give wider through trains
In "Across the West" [375924/32114/26]
Posted by GBM at 09:57, 13th June 2026
 
Last Saturday and today GWR have cancelled all London-Paignton trains advising travellers to change trains where necessary. Today of the seven diagrams covering Paignton-Exmouth the are four two car 150s diagrams The others being 2 x 3 car turbos and a 3 car 158) on the busiest day of the week.
Two morning Paddington to Penzance trains both 5 cars!

Re: Ministers want 60% of children walking or cycling to school by 2035
In "Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them" [375923/32124/50]
Posted by John D at 09:55, 13th June 2026
 
Why not aim higher?

I'd say it was closer to 80% in my day.

As I understand it, there I much more freedom to choose your child's school these days and so the travel distances have gone up, and walking and cycling may be practical for less.  I was, perhaps, unusual but not unique in travelling by train to school - Petts Wood to Sydenham Hill and then to Sevenoaks, totally beyond walking distance - but walking to and from the stations.  On rare occasions, I cycled to Sevenoaks but even in those days the roads were far from cycle friendly.   I have vague recollections of there being Mum's or Dad's taxis  used for some at both schools, but as I used other entrances, I have no idea of volume.

Just on Thursday afternoon, I saw the 555 bus arrive at the top of our street and drop off half a dozen school children from Corsham.  This is a double deck school service and I understand it is very fully loaded - to the extent that there is no encouragement to market it further though general public may use it if they wish.  Other buses and coaches pick up from Melksham Market Place and it's educational to see the volumes picked up there on a school day for various other towns on both early service buses and special school runs.

Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander said: "Too many people would like to walk, wheel or cycle more often but don't feel they have safe and convenient options to do so."

"This is about creating healthier communities, helping households keep more money in their pockets and building a transport network that works better for everyone."

Dead right.  It needs to be safe and practical. Our local secondary school has recently had a "new" path opened from the new build estates to the school, at massive expense (many consider it over-engineered) and that save a long walk around 3 sides of a square, including o a shared cycle and walking path on the side of the A365 which is really far too narrow for the traffic it was taking.  Interesting, I write "new" - there has been a public footpath across the fields since before the school was located there, but it was rarely used by any school child; I can recall just one occasion when out walking the dog, mid-winter - seeing a boy using it, and stepping in and through the mud getting his shoes and trousers covered.   

Drop off time may be an issue; pick up time is worse with all the parents arriving early to be there and close to save the little darlings having to walk too far.  Car parking is inadequate for pickup, and unrestricted roads close to the school become linear car parks for a while. 

Interesting observation, used to be a school Governor in Kingston upon Thames, and had similar problem with parents parking in afternoon, or dropping off (including on yellow zig zags).  A couple of random visits couple per year from a camera equipped enforcement van at school times, instantly improved things.  Bet parents WhatsApp groups soon passed on message about dozens getting fines in post.  However I have never seen a parking enforcement van in Wiltshire (just mobile speeding enforcement camera vans), so guessing lack of enforcement is effectively allowing bad parking to be normalised

As for walking on footpaths, although the walking distances for Primary and Secondary schools go back to the Education Act 1944 (when planning post war aims).  There is a rule about safe paths, which in modern case law is basically those lit and reasonably surfaced.  Therefore the muddy path across a field wouldn't be counted for home to school distance (and this usually applies to admissions criteria too when distance is decider of if places available)

 
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