Great British Railways Posted by REVUpminster at 07:10, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Looking at the governments recent decision to abolish NHS England deemed a quango; is the new Briitish Railways just another quango overseen by the Department of Transport.
Re: Great British Railways Posted by grahame at 07:26, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Looking at the governments recent decision to abolish NHS England deemed a quango; is the new Briitish Railways just another quango overseen by the Department of Transport.
Oh - the same irony that rail franchising is declared dead and the TOCs will be nationalised, whereas flavour of the month in bus operation is a network designed by the public sector, with routes or areas operated by franchises?
Re: Great British Railways Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:54, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Looking at the governments recent decision to abolish NHS England deemed a quango; is the new Briitish Railways just another quango overseen by the Department of Transport.
Yes.
Re: Great British Railways Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:14, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
My reading of the debate is that Labour are re-nationalising the railways, and re-nationalising ... erm, the National Health Service.

Re: Great British Railways Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:25, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
My reading of the debate is that Labour are re-nationalising the railways, and re-nationalising ... erm, the National Health Service.


When was the NHS privatised?
Re: Great British Railways Posted by ChrisB at 15:26, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Depends on your definition of NHS England body
Re: Great British Railways Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:49, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Depends on your definition of NHS England body
I'd suggest it depends rather more on your understanding of what constitutes privatisation.
Re: Great British Railways Posted by ChrisB at 16:02, 16th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Maybe so, so tell me - what is the value of external contracts entered into by NHS England? And why they aren't seen as privatisation (even by 'the back door')?
Re: Great British Railways Posted by Electric train at 06:41, 17th March 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Looking at the governments recent decision to abolish NHS England deemed a quango; is the new Briitish Railways just another quango overseen by the Department of Transport.
Oh - the same irony that rail franchising is declared dead and the TOCs will be nationalised, whereas flavour of the month in bus operation is a network designed by the public sector, with routes or areas operated by franchises?
No.
The first phase of GBR is to bring all the National Rail franchise under on body, GBR. Phase 2 will be the reshaping of the operators, it could see all the London 'metro' services handed to TfL; consolidating Southern, SWT and SE outer services into one operator, the interesting one will be the proposals for a Hampshire IoW unitary authority which looks like transport is part of that proposal, there are likely to be others, Buckinghamshire??. Cities like Manchester, Birmingham all local services handed to the metro mayors to run.
The Labour Government move with NHS England seems more about devolving power to Health Care Trusts than micro management by the men from the Ministry the same is for GBR ................ However the men from the Ministry tend to be control freaks, hopefully the Government will be able to prise control out of the dyeing hands of the Civil Servants