Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 18:34, 15th July 2023 |
Lest we get too carried away with appreciation for the work that rebuilt this bridge abutment, I was struck by this when I came across it. On 31st December 1862 part of a new viaduct on the Metropolan Extension Line near Clapham (now High Street) station sank into the ground! It's the nine arches beside Lendal (ex-York) Terrace. One of the piers was seen to move, and then "before long it had subsided upwards of four feet into the earth"!
The attached is from the Morning Herald (London) 20 January 1863, and the BL say is public domain. I can find no report to say the line did open on 1st February, nor that it didn't - but no news is good news, so I guess it did. So that's three weeks to clear the site, dig a hole to find out what is (or more importantly isn't) down there to support all these bricks, and build the new section. Then another week to lay the track and do whatever Victorians did to imitate a tamper, and presumably get it inspected.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by IndustryInsider at 16:51, 3rd July 2023 |
: Red Squirrel link
Is that likely to be there just until they’ve completely demobilised from site?
Yes, I would imagine so. A short 50mph restriction from a 90mph line speed won’t cause too many problems.
Well imagine that, I was wrong! Back to linespeed from today.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 09:17, 2nd July 2023 |
50mph TSR.
Is that likely to be there just until they’ve completely demobilised from site?
Yes, I would imagine so. A short 50mph restriction from a 90mph line speed won’t cause too many problems.
Couple of things that may be the need for the TSR
The rail may need stressing, this where CWR is tensioned to the nominal temprature for 20deg C
Final Tamping and alignment needed
The stability of the replaced Southern embankment my need to be monitored for settlement
The new bridge abutment piles may need to be monitored for settlement
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 21:48, 1st July 2023 |
50mph TSR.
Is that likely to be there just until they’ve completely demobilised from site?
Yes, I would imagine so. A short 50mph restriction from a 90mph line speed won’t cause too many problems.
New ballast likely to settle for a few weeks? So will need to watch the track alignment for a bit.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by IndustryInsider at 16:41, 1st July 2023 |
50mph TSR.
Is that likely to be there just until they’ve completely demobilised from site?
Yes, I would imagine so. A short 50mph restriction from a 90mph line speed won’t cause too many problems.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 23:09, 29th June 2023 |
Did a return Didcot - Oxford today; noted that trains are running at reduced speed over the bridge.
50mph TSR.
Is that likely to be there just until they’ve completely demobilised from site?
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by IndustryInsider at 17:12, 29th June 2023 |
Did a return Didcot - Oxford today; noted that trains are running at reduced speed over the bridge.
50mph TSR.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:19, 29th June 2023 |
Did a return Didcot - Oxford today; noted that trains are running at reduced speed over the bridge.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 20:54, 15th June 2023 |
Indeed - great to have it back. Though a fair few Cotswold–Oxford commuters had been rather enjoying the more reliable service not impacted by GWML delays!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 16:01, 13th June 2023 |
First trip to London since the abutment failure. Many thanks to Network Rail's engineers for making it possible!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 16:10, 10th June 2023 |
Discussion about Oxford Station split off and merged at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=593.315
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 10:14, 9th June 2023 |
Here's Network Rail's news release:
Friday 9 Jun 2023
Rail passengers on the move again through Nuneham as major project to replace 160-year-old viaduct support completes ahead of schedule
Engineers have worked around the clock to safely reopen Nuneham Viaduct, in Oxfordshire, a day early, on Friday 9 June, following an intensive ten-week programme of work.
The railway between Didcot and Oxford was closed on Monday 3 April after significant movements in the viaduct were detected due to emerging structural issues with the south bank abutment (structure that supports the bridge). The abutment was built as part of the original viaduct in 1856.
The rail industry, including Great Western Railway (GWR), Chiltern Railways and CrossCountry, worked closely to keep passengers moving during the closure, whilst Network Rail’s engineers and contractors at Balfour Beatty carried out emergency repairs, which completed, ahead of schedule.
On Friday 9 June, the first passenger service to cross the viaduct in just under ten weeks was a GWR shuttle train between Oxford and Didcot. A full timetable for all train operators is planned to resume from Saturday 10 June.
A major project
Around 800 people have worked nearly 60,000 hours, to successfully install the new steel support, which will secure the future of this important rail link for generations to come.
In the final week of the major project, the 150-tonne bridge was lowered onto the new abutment, a new embankment built, before the railway tracks and cables were put back in place.
The repair of the viaduct has been complex, challenging and required some heavy engineering:
24 x 15m long steel piles were driven into the bed of the River Thames to create a solid platform for the temporary structure that held the weight of the viaduct while the abutment was demolished and rebuilt.
Eight more piles were driven up to 20m into the embankment to support the new structure.
A 750-tonne crane was used to lift the temporary structure into place.
4,500 tonnes of material removed from the old embankment
5,500 tonnes of material brought back in to build the new embankment
Engineers will remain on site for up to 12 weeks to finish works and demobilise the construction site, working outside of train operating hours, whilst track, signalling and station upgrades continue in Oxford city centre*...
Notes to Editors
*From Saturday 29 July until the early hours of Monday 7 August Network Rail will be working to upgrade the track just north of Oxford Station - installing new high speed crossovers. To the south of the station, Osney Lane footbridge will be modified, moving one of the piers to make way for track layout changes. Work will also be carried out to adjust the coping stones on platforms inside the station.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:53, 9th June 2023 |
Well done to all concerned - hopefully "prevention is better than cure" will be the mantra going forward!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:36, 9th June 2023 |
Huzzah!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ChrisB at 06:51, 9th June 2023 |
There’s also a stopper to Didcot shown on planners for 0749 this morning
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by grahame at 02:47, 9th June 2023 |
07:10 Oxford to Didcot Parkway due 07:27
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 07:10 Oxford to Didcot Parkway due 07:27.
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 07:10 Oxford to Didcot Parkway due 07:27.
Hurrah!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 22:42, 8th June 2023 |
A fantastic achievement! It's amazing what engineers can achieve if you just let them get on with it!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ray951 at 22:01, 8th June 2023 |
Good news an empty coaching stock train ran from Oxford to Oxford via Didcot across Nuneham bridge this evening
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:66637/2023-06-08/detailed
And there are also services in the real time trains for tomorrow across the bridge.
If the bridge is now open, congratulations to all the NR staff and contractors for delivering on time, I for one will be glad to get back on the train and avoid travelling on the A34.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 19:32, 5th June 2023 |
Think there's a couple of those fastenings lying spare on the deck and they may or may not be called 'Carriage bolts'.
Mark
Mark
Ah, I’ve since found another possibility, specifically designed to replace rivets on bridges etc, called “tension control bolts”. They look very similar to the one you’ve pointed out in the photo, that I missed first time:
https://www.tcbolts.com/en/products/tcb-standard
Their website mentions a number of previous rail related contracts, half a million in the Forth Bridge for example:
https://www.tcbolts.com/en/projects/bridges/rivet-replacement
Paul
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 18:38, 5th June 2023 |
Think there's a couple of those fastenings lying spare on the deck and they may or may not be called 'Carriage bolts'.
Someone somewhere must have been with child to have the opportunity to clean all that steel back to bare metal and apply the appropriate surface coating system with a correctly coloured top coat - the structure being colloquially known as 'Black bridge', not 'Brown bridge'.
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 15:09, 5th June 2023 |
In the second of the photos in the Twitter link, they are reinstating the deck plates, (that I assume were removed to make room for piling), does anyone know if the lines of domed heads showing are rivets, or if they are some sort of bolt or screw designed to look like rivets?
Paul
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 12:26, 5th June 2023 |
Latest Network Rail summary on Twitter says that the viaduct is back in place and they’re reballasting etc:
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1665658184772599808
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 12:38, 31st May 2023 |
Attached is a classic example. The 1857 original timber bridge on the GWR Weymouth line was simply covered over when the line was doubled in the 1880s.
Then in the late 1980s it was rebuilt again, this time to provide clearance for the western arm of the Dorchester bypass(A37). I was called in by Dorset County Museum and was shown the site, after the line reopened, there is still timber buried there.
British Rail kindly gave the Museum and myself copied of the photographs they had taken, one of which is seen here
Then in the late 1980s it was rebuilt again, this time to provide clearance for the western arm of the Dorchester bypass(A37). I was called in by Dorset County Museum and was shown the site, after the line reopened, there is still timber buried there.
British Rail kindly gave the Museum and myself copied of the photographs they had taken, one of which is seen here
A similar thing was done at Shakespeare Cliff near Dover, the original 1848 wooden trestles along the English Channel Beach these were encased was a chalk infill in 1927 when a new sea wall was built. A storm in 2014 breached the concrete sea wall washing the chalk infill out.
There will be many other such "cover ups" on the network
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by bradshaw at 12:08, 31st May 2023 |
Attached is a classic example. The 1857 original timber bridge on the GWR Weymouth line was simply covered over when the line was doubled in the 1880s.
Then in the late 1980s it was rebuilt again, this time to provide clearance for the western arm of the Dorchester bypass(A37). I was called in by Dorset County Museum and was shown the site, after the line reopened, there is still timber buried there.
British Rail kindly gave the Museum and myself copied of the photographs they had taken, one of which is seen here
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 10:10, 31st May 2023 |
That link doesn't work - it seems to have some '%' signs embedded.
Sorry - my mistake.
A note about dates: Stuart Calvert talks about the "1856 timber structure"
I've lost track of the video that showed a pile of timber - Stuart Calvert didn't give any context for where they found it.
Was it on the GW Paddington to Bristol line that in some places, embankments were constrained by burying a pair of timbers at either edge, linked to one another by chains?
At Midford on the S&D on the down side of the line, a trench was dug for services a few years ago, and I was surprised to see that by chance they excavators had chosen exactly the line to encounter an *enormous* buried squared-off bault of timber at the point where the infrastructure transitioned from viaduct to embankment. I wish I'd taken a photo. I think it was simply reburied.
And of course, wooden viaducts replaced by embankments were sometimes simply buried, sometimes with unintended consequences. Contractors encountered one of those at the east end of Shakespeare Cliff tunnel in Dover, Kent. Back in coffeeshopland, there's likely another lurking beneath the formation on the approach to Penzance, as that was built across the foreshore and carried on a wooden viaduct. And is there another buried one on the Falmouth branch?
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 09:54, 31st May 2023 |
And more from Paul Clifton of the BBC on Twitter
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 07:01, 31st May 2023 |
That link doesn't work - it seems to have some '%' signs embedded.
Sorry - my mistake.
A note about dates: Stuart Calvert talks about the "1856 timber structure" - but the original timber bridge was built in 1843, and by inference its abutment was reused in 1856 and 1916 for the two iron bridges. The GWR magazine (posted earlier) only said it was "constructed under the Oxford Railway Act, 1843", and was "replaced in 1849-50". So who's right? I've been looking for old newspapers...
I have just found a piece in the Berkshire Chronicle of 11 November 1843 saying that the first Nuneham bridge started building "on Saturday, and will be completed in about five weeks." As the 11th was a Saturday, that start date was the 4th. I can't find completion recorded, but the line was opened on Wednesday June 12th 1844, and the "journey is performed in something under two hours and a half" (London-Oxford).
For the second bridge, there is a detailed report (Oxford Journal Saturday 20 September 1856) of the inquest into Henry Collett's death by drowning in the Thames. He was a labourer working on the new Nuneham bridge, and "late of Appleford", and several workmates gave evidence. He was last seen alive on Tuesday 9th September, and found under the new bridge on Monday 15th. We don't know from that how long the work took before and after, but those Victorians would likely not need all of a year for that job.
There was another inquest, into the death of a young lad working on the new bridge at Appleford, and that happened in July 1856. So it appears both bridges were rebuilt in wrought iron at the same time. If they were built the same way, at the same time, in the same river, it is pretty likely they both needed replacement together, and of course if the line has to be closed you'd rather do both within one closure.
Stuart Calvert date reference is likely to be based on the record drawings held by Network Rail.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 18:29, 30th May 2023 |
Another update video from Network Rail via Twitter
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 18:59, 23rd May 2023 |
That link doesn't work - it seems to have some '%' signs embedded.
Sorry - my mistake.
A note about dates: Stuart Calvert talks about the "1856 timber structure" - but the original timber bridge was built in 1843, and by inference its abutment was reused in 1856 and 1916 for the two iron bridges. The GWR magazine (posted earlier) only said it was "constructed under the Oxford Railway Act, 1843", and was "replaced in 1849-50". So who's right? I've been looking for old newspapers...
I have just found a piece in the Berkshire Chronicle of 11 November 1843 saying that the first Nuneham bridge started building "on Saturday, and will be completed in about five weeks." As the 11th was a Saturday, that start date was the 4th. I can't find completion recorded, but the line was opened on Wednesday June 12th 1844, and the "journey is performed in something under two hours and a half" (London-Oxford).
For the second bridge, there is a detailed report (Oxford Journal Saturday 20 September 1856) of the inquest into Henry Collett's death by drowning in the Thames. He was a labourer working on the new Nuneham bridge, and "late of Appleford", and several workmates gave evidence. He was last seen alive on Tuesday 9th September, and found under the new bridge on Monday 15th. We don't know from that how long the work took before and after, but those Victorians would likely not need all of a year for that job.
There was another inquest, into the death of a young lad working on the new bridge at Appleford, and that happened in July 1856. So it appears both bridges were rebuilt in wrought iron at the same time. If they were built the same way, at the same time, in the same river, it is pretty likely they both needed replacement together, and of course if the line has to be closed you'd rather do both within one closure.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ChrisB at 18:28, 23rd May 2023 |
That link doesn't work - it seems to have some '%' signs embedded.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 17:32, 23rd May 2023 |
A further update here. The video was obviously filmed a few days ago, but the picture in the web page is newer:
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by CyclingSid at 07:26, 21st May 2023 |
Latest sitrep: https://twitter.com/PaulCliftonBBC/status/1659603035214037004?cxt=HHwWmIC-4dyKjIguAAAA
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 12:00, 18th May 2023 |
New parts, stringers, cross members may be being fabricated to match the new bearings,
Yes I would guess already designed and with the fabricators for production.
I also notice they have scaffolded the central support so perhaps the central bearings are being given some attention as well.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 20:49, 17th May 2023 |
Images from Network Rail on Twitter show the progress with the row of piles, they basically line up with the ends of the three main girders, it looks like a small area of deck plating has been removed for vertical access:
Exploiting the super-zoom facility of Flickr, you can see what they have done in one of yesterday's pictures. There are two longitudinal members under the deck on each side, resting on the crossbeams. Because of the skew (very clear in today's overhead view) they extend varying amounts beyond the last crossbeam. These stringers are made of short pieces joined by riveted plates, and it looks as if the end piece has been unriveted in each case. While it's hard to see, I think the end crossbeam meets the western (far) side girder right at its end, so part of this must have been unriveted as well. (Yes - that's visible in one of today's pictures.)
New parts, stringers, cross members may be being fabricated to match the new bearings,
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 18:30, 17th May 2023 |
Images from Network Rail on Twitter show the progress with the row of piles, they basically line up with the ends of the three main girders, it looks like a small area of deck plating has been removed for vertical access:
Exploiting the super-zoom facility of Flickr, you can see what they have done in one of yesterday's pictures. There are two longitudinal members under the deck on each side, resting on the crossbeams. Because of the skew (very clear in today's overhead view) they extend varying amounts beyond the last crossbeam. These stringers are made of short pieces joined by riveted plates, and it looks as if the end piece has been unriveted in each case. While it's hard to see, I think the end crossbeam meets the western (far) side girder right at its end, so part of this must have been unriveted as well. (Yes - that's visible in one of today's pictures.)
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 18:04, 17th May 2023 |
Images from Network Rail on Twitter show the progress with the row of piles, they basically line up with the ends of the three main girders, it looks like a small area of deck plating has been removed for vertical access:
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1658843943038009349
I’m surprised they’re saying it’s just starting today 17th, given the previous photos taken on the 15th…
Paul
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1658843943038009349
I’m surprised they’re saying it’s just starting today 17th, given the previous photos taken on the 15th…
Paul
Is there a difference between foundation piles ie those to support the bridge which may have been augered and filled with reinforced concrete and the abutment piles used to retain the backfill which may be pile driven cam sheets ie "hammered in" ??
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 17:29, 17th May 2023 |
Images from Network Rail on Twitter show the progress with the row of piles, they basically line up with the ends of the three main girders, it looks like a small area of deck plating has been removed for vertical access:
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1658843943038009349
I’m surprised they’re saying it’s just starting today 17th, given the previous photos taken on the 15th…
Paul
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by CyclingSid at 15:26, 16th May 2023 |
Not sure if these are from the same source:
https://twitter.com/sonic_speedbird/status/1658464574428028929?cxt=HHwWgoDR9cqvhoQuAAAA
via Paul Clifton
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 15:12, 16th May 2023 |
Thanks for that link, those are crisp photos.
Indeed, no indication that the bridge is carried on more than rudimentary fixed steel bearers at the centre pier and ditto, perhaps originally sliding, at the land abutments. This is the sort of bearing used at the likes of Finmere's long out-of-use rail over road bridge. The Finmere example nmaintained since whenever and thoroughly seized, those had worked their masonry bearers loose and generally caused mischief. Whether those at Nuneham, to add to the merriment, were able to wiggle that abutment like a loose tooth is another matter.
Another of those photos is a good portrayal of the structure's deck as set on the centre pier being deliberately canted, as the line, crossing the river, is on a curve.
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 14:05, 16th May 2023 |
A chap called Brian Daniels has taken a good sequence of photos yesterday, with the piling rig in action, they can be found on his Flickr photo stream here:
https://flic.kr/p/2oAGjij
It’s possible to get an idea how close to the end of the span the piles are being installed. There’s a good shot showing the mid-stream pier, but unfortunately there’s no details of any of the span centre bearings or securing points, must be hidden by masonry?
Paul
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 16:54, 13th May 2023 |
Interesting that the central beam appears to project further back into the the abutment than either of the side beams.
If you draw a line between the ends of the two side beams that's true. I think the centre beam is longer than the side beams, so that each half deck ends at right angles to the bridge axis. You can see this, just about, in other parts of the video. How else would you do it?
Ah that makes sense, though not obvious from the screen grab. I must look at the whole video again.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 14:17, 13th May 2023 |
Is it the case that this aspect of the steel spans at Nuneham is rather peculiar and possibly uncommon?
Mark
Mark
Look at the 2 road over rail bridges on the approach to Paddington very large skew bowstring bridges about the same vintage as Nuneham
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 14:12, 13th May 2023 |
Is it the case that this aspect of the steel spans at Nuneham is rather peculiar and possibly uncommon?
Mark
Mark
I doubt it. Nobody laid out a railway line with turns so as to line up exactly at right angles to every road or river! I suspect most bridges are skew, though some shorter ones have their abutments turned to be true to the bridge.
Interesting that the central beam appears to project further back into the the abutment than either of the side beams.
If you draw a line between the ends of the two side beams that's true. I think the centre beam is longer than the side beams, so that each half deck ends at right angles to the bridge axis. You can see this, just about, in other parts of the video. How else would you do it?
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 13:57, 13th May 2023 |
Is it the case that this aspect of the steel spans at Nuneham is rather peculiar and possibly uncommon?
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 12:45, 13th May 2023 |
... this type of bridge where the load is transferred at the corners of each deck.
... and in the middle of the ends, made more complicated by the skew and the resulting stagger between the two sides.
Good point. I had assumed from some of the historical descriptions that each track had a separate bridge deck. I was wrong. Also I had not appreciated that there was a skew. Interesting that the central beam appears to project further back into the the abutment than either of the side beams.
I suspect someone has now made careful measurements of the ends of the trusses and will be designing fabricating some new steelwork to attache the new bridge bearings.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 12:08, 13th May 2023 |
Screengrab from Network Rail's friday video.
Network Rail will have close up and quality photos to record the state of this part of the structure.
The screengrab deserves to be captioned in a way that credits a certain station between Cardiff and Port Talbot, but given its continued newsworthiness I'm still referring to this as the 'Paul Clifton Suspension Bridge'.
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 11:13, 13th May 2023 |
... this type of bridge where the load is transferred at the corners of each deck.
... and in the middle of the ends, made more complicated by the skew and the resulting stagger between the two sides.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 10:33, 13th May 2023 |
... this type of bridge where the load is transferred at the corners of each deck.
... and in the middle of the ends, made more complicated by the skew and the resulting stagger between the two sides.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 09:59, 13th May 2023 |
From my short time designing bridges I recall the following:
1) You need rotation at both ends though only one end needs to slide. Both ends should be maintained.
2) Always overdesign the bearings - they sound expensive, but replacing them is more than 10 times the initial cost and over 100 times the marginal cost of a bigger bearing!
Modern elastomeric bearings may require less maintenance than the traditional roller bearing designs used when the bridge was built, but I don't know if they would be suitable for this type of bridge where the load is transferred at the corners of each deck.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 21:55, 12th May 2023 |
My thoughts are that they’d somehow link the two spans in the middle, and make that a single fixed point, with any sliding being done at both the land abutments?
That would be logical for ease of access if the sliding surfaces or maybe rollers had to be maintained.
Paul
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 21:28, 12th May 2023 |
That page is a good resource - I meant to say it's not clear what the provision is at Nuneham.
The pair of bowstring spans look to be in contact at the pier in the centre of the river: perhaps at the landward end of each there are simple sliding bearings to provide for movement and those are prone to seizing - at the time the bridge was reconstructed before 1910, engineers would have been familiar with various types to cope with different types of motion and loadings.
There's also the question of whether the design of the bearings allowed the failing span to start 'Walking' laterally.
The choice of bearing is a bit of a window into the understanding of the designers of the structure - the nature of the movement that at the time they antipated they'd need to cater for. Network Rail will have something in hand on this though.
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 19:49, 12th May 2023 |
I wouldn't have thought the embankment would be cut back further than absolutely necessary - to do otherwise would increase the cost and duration of the repair - so somebody must surely have concluded there is an awful lot of unstable ground around the south abutment.
Moving earth around has got so quick and easy with modern machinery that I don't suppose it's a big issue any more. You have only to look at any building site, even a couple of houses, to see how much moving earth back and forth goes on and how few people it takes to do it.
So I think it looks like working space they are creating. I'm sure there will be very strict rules and restraints to prevent anyone working underneath that bridge of Damocles. Incidentally, I've seen no sign of anything holding that span in place, to prevent it moving on or off its bearings or the jacks. Surely that's essential in a case like this?
As is often the case nowadays the back fill can be blocks made from a styrene based product which does not require compacting.
New Friday video from Network Rail Western.
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1657030370897055744
I'm no closer to understanding how that bridge's bearings work. We could do with a few close up quality photos of the, um, ends.
Mark
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1657030370897055744
I'm no closer to understanding how that bridge's bearings work. We could do with a few close up quality photos of the, um, ends.
Mark
A quick Google provided this definition - Bridge bearings are the devices that transfer the traffic loading and the weight of the bridge from the superstructure to the substructure. Bearings also allow the bridge to expand and contract, as well as allowing for rotation of the beams as they deflect under live loads.
This webpage might help https://theconstructor.org/structures/bridge-bearings-types-details/18062/
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 16:44, 12th May 2023 |
New Friday video from Network Rail Western.
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1657030370897055744
I'm no closer to understanding how that bridge's bearings work. We could do with a few close up quality photos of the, um, ends.
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 10:03, 12th May 2023 |
I wouldn't have thought the embankment would be cut back further than absolutely necessary - to do otherwise would increase the cost and duration of the repair - so somebody must surely have concluded there is an awful lot of unstable ground around the south abutment.
Moving earth around has got so quick and easy with modern machinery that I don't suppose it's a big issue any more. You have only to look at any building site, even a couple of houses, to see how much moving earth back and forth goes on and how few people it takes to do it.
So I think it looks like working space they are creating. I'm sure there will be very strict rules and restraints to prevent anyone working underneath that bridge of Damocles. Incidentally, I've seen no sign of anything holding that span in place, to prevent it moving on or off its bearings or the jacks. Surely that's essential in a case like this?
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Bob_Blakey at 09:50, 12th May 2023 |
I wouldn't have thought the embankment would be cut back further than absolutely necessary - to do otherwise would increase the cost and duration of the repair - so somebody must surely have concluded there is an awful lot of unstable ground around the south abutment.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 06:56, 12th May 2023 |
For those that can see that picture ... doesn't the platform the jacks are sitting on - piles, lattice girders and all - look massively over the top for the load they are carrying (which is about 120 tons total)? Even if it's rigidity that counts, rather than strength, that's still true.
Possibly, though the trusses are only supported at the ends so there is quite a long span. The loads may not be evenly distributed among all the jacks that support the deck or if there is some differential settlement in the piles. There will also need to be some allowance for accidental and construction loads on the bridge deck. Finally they will be using what they had available in the yard at short notice.
I agree with ellendune observations. Also when I have been involved in projects where temporary support structures have been put in place the design always looks OTT, it was explained to me by a structural engineer the temporary steel beams used have a lower load rating than structural steel RSJ 'I' beams of an equivalent size
See last two pictures for an idea of how much of the embankment has been removed at this stage
https://www.tmsmaritime.co.uk/emergency-works-2/
https://www.tmsmaritime.co.uk/emergency-works-2/
I guess they need to make space for the piling rigs, and may be they also needed to remove that far back to get to stable embankment
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by CyclingSid at 18:39, 11th May 2023 |
See last two pictures for an idea of how much of the embankment has been removed at this stage
https://www.tmsmaritime.co.uk/emergency-works-2/
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 11:12, 10th May 2023 |
For those that can see that picture ... doesn't the platform the jacks are sitting on - piles, lattice girders and all - look massively over the top for the load they are carrying (which is about 120 tons total)? Even if it's rigidity that counts, rather than strength, that's still true.
Possibly, though the trusses are only supported at the ends so there is quite a long span. The loads may not be evenly distributed among all the jacks that support the deck or if there is some differential settlement in the piles. There will also need to be some allowance for accidental and construction loads on the bridge deck. Finally they will be using what they had available in the yard at short notice.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 10:57, 10th May 2023 |
For those that can see that picture ... doesn't the platform the jacks are sitting on - piles, lattice girders and all - look massively over the top for the load they are carrying (which is about 120 tons total)? Even if it's rigidity that counts, rather than strength, that's still true.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 10:50, 10th May 2023 |
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Depends if anyone else can see the image which is the one that Red Squirrel posted
Depends if anyone else can see the image which is the one that Red Squirrel posted
Can you see it, ellendune?
The uri you posted was: https://twitter.com/507stre/status/1655619283479560196/photo/1
This appears to link to the twitter page, rather than directly to the image. I can see that the img tags wouldn't like that!
The uri I posted was: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fvnw9uMX0AIqpPz?format=jpg&name=small
...which is clearly very different. This does resolve, and works within the img tags. I note that it needs the querystring (the ?format=jpg&name=small bit).
I don't claim to be an expert in either twitter or simplemachines; I have posted this in the hope that it helps!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by CyclingSid at 06:51, 10th May 2023 |
Image from https://twitter.com/507stre/status/1655619283479560196
Additional image https://twitter.com/507stre/status/1655988513806901249?cxt=HHwWgoCz2fGxoPstAAAA
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 14:55, 9th May 2023 |
Here's the picture from Twitter:
Well I tried. Why can I only get that to work 50% of the time?
I was going to add that that is just as I imagined it would be done.
Now the real work can start on the new abutment.
Well I tried. Why can I only get that to work 50% of the time?
I was going to add that that is just as I imagined it would be done.
Now the real work can start on the new abutment.
Is this the problem I describe at http://www.passenger.chat/27456 ?
Depends if anyone else can see the image which is the one that Red Squirrel posted
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 14:23, 9th May 2023 |
600mm. Blimey. Impressive.
It's what was needed - indeed, exactly how far I estimated the deck to have dropped from its original height, by peering intently at pictures taken along the track. Presumably it will have to go a bit higher to add the bearings on top of the new abutment.
But you'll observe that the lift was not done in one go - none of the jacks has extended by anything like 600 mm. They will have been used as two sets alternately: lift the bridge on one set, raise the second on spacers (which you can see), then lift using those and retract the first ones to add more spacers under them.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by grahame at 13:45, 9th May 2023 |
Here's the picture from Twitter:
Well I tried. Why can I only get that to work 50% of the time?
I was going to add that that is just as I imagined it would be done.
Now the real work can start on the new abutment.
Well I tried. Why can I only get that to work 50% of the time?
I was going to add that that is just as I imagined it would be done.
Now the real work can start on the new abutment.
Is this the problem I describe at http://www.passenger.chat/27456 ?
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 13:10, 9th May 2023 |
600mm. Blimey. Impressive.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 12:00, 9th May 2023 |
Here's the picture from Twitter:
Well I tried. Why can I only get that to work 50% of the time?
I was going to add that that is just as I imagined it would be done.
Now the real work can start on the new abutment.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 11:48, 9th May 2023 |
I’ve seen in other forums that the bridge span was jacked level by yesterday. There’s a Twitter picture here that’s a good view of the present situation:
https://twitter.com/507stre/status/1655619283479560196
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ray951 at 10:59, 2nd May 2023 |
I see that the Oxford - Radley shuttle service ran today. The schedule is for 3 services in the morning peak and 3 in the evening peak.
The Didcot - Culham service didnt run this morning, although this afternoon's services have not yet been cancelled.
Services do not appear to be scheduled to stop at Appleford, and the timings are very slack 19 minutes to get to Culham and 14 on the return, I would assume if they do eventually run there would be a lot of early arrivals.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 11:15, 30th April 2023 |
From what Stuart Calvert says at 1:18 I wonder if they are going to make openings in the bridge deck so they can insert the piles and drill down through the deck from above.
If this is so the deck will be jacked up slightly so the new abutment can then be constructed underneath it before the deck is lowered down on to its new bearings.
If this is so the deck will be jacked up slightly so the new abutment can then be constructed underneath it before the deck is lowered down on to its new bearings.
That would answer the question I raised earlier about getting piles all round, and close to, all three bearings:
For the abutment, I can see that removing the embankment will allow them to put piles in just beyond the end of the bridge, and they can also put them beside the bearings. That could give enough support and keep the load through the piles vertical (which I think helps). The bearing for the middle girder is the difficult one to get under or all around.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Gordon the Blue Engine at 09:48, 30th April 2023 |
From what Stuart Calvert says at 1:18 I wonder if they are going to make openings in the bridge deck so they can insert the piles and drill down through the deck from above.
If this is so the deck will be jacked up slightly so the new abutment can then be constructed underneath it before the deck is lowered down on to its new bearings.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ChrisB at 14:42, 29th April 2023 |
Another update on twitter from NR, posted yesterday
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1651886169997692929?s=46&t=cyVBe5e5i0wsMv6U8nZRng
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by IndustryInsider at 16:11, 28th April 2023 |
Looks like from next Tuesday shuttle turbos will run between Didcot and Culham (only stopping at Appleford in the up direction) and also between Oxford and Radley.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 06:42, 28th April 2023 |
[...]
The naval gazing is generated by a whole load of "governance" place on NR by the the Treasury and the DfT and the ORR and some internal. NR is a large "public" body that spends a lot of Tax payers money which means there will always be rules governing how it spends money; after all Contractors mainly have to look after their share holders interests.
[...]
Something has gone wrong somewhere though, hasn't it? Bond Street (Elizabeth line) and Portway Park & Ride stations have little in common on the face of it, but both seem to have faced months of delay due to certification issues. I'm told that a couple of local reopenings have been delayed by a lack of awarenesss of certification requirements.
The certification process is onerous, but not impossible. The certification process starts at the design stage a good programme director / project project manager and the lead Engineer in my experience build up the file at that the design stage and keep it under constant review through the construction and commissioning stage.
Bond St (Elizabeth Line) most of the delays were attributed to the constraints of the construction site.
...naval gazing...
I see no ships.
I see no ships.
I knew something was missing on the horizon
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Bob_Blakey at 12:40, 27th April 2023 |
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 11:22, 27th April 2023 |
[...]
The naval gazing is generated by a whole load of "governance" place on NR by the the Treasury and the DfT and the ORR and some internal. NR is a large "public" body that spends a lot of Tax payers money which means there will always be rules governing how it spends money; after all Contractors mainly have to look after their share holders interests.
[...]
Something has gone wrong somewhere though, hasn't it? Bond Street (Elizabeth line) and Portway Park & Ride stations have little in common on the face of it, but both seem to have faced months of delay due to certification issues. I'm told that a couple of local reopenings have been delayed by a lack of awarenesss of certification requirements.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 08:37, 27th April 2023 |
Known as ‘JFDI’?…..
Well, yeah.
I have an engineering background (mechanical rather than civil) so I do understand that there is a lot more to these things than meets the eye of the lay observer. But even in the exciting new world of Project Speed, I can't help thinking that the general modus operandi is still far too omphaloskeptic.
The naval gazing is generated by a whole load of "governance" place on NR by the the Treasury and the DfT and the ORR and some internal. NR is a large "public" body that spends a lot of Tax payers money which means there will always be rules governing how it spends money; after all Contractors mainly have to look after their share holders interests.
Also, there must be someone in Network Rail just itching to take the opportunity, while that span is lifted off its bearings and free of ballast, for a full grit blast and application of fetching (and black) epoxy surface coating to Nuneham Bridge's rusting steel.
Mark
I suspect the option to treat the deck at the very least will be looked at, but they would not want that to impact on the reconstruction and opening of the line
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 19:55, 26th April 2023 |
The uncaptioned chap from NR said:
"We'd normally spend 2 or 3 years in planning and designing and getting everything organised"
This situation is very abnormal for a number of reasons, but one can't help wondering if other projects could move forward quicker if there was a greater sense of urgency...
He’s called Stuart Calvert, (NR Western & Wales capital delivery director), he was name checked in the two earlier videos."We'd normally spend 2 or 3 years in planning and designing and getting everything organised"
This situation is very abnormal for a number of reasons, but one can't help wondering if other projects could move forward quicker if there was a greater sense of urgency...
Paul
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 10:22, 26th April 2023 |
omphaloskeptic.
*Flies to dictionary*
Ah. Really good point.
Also, there must be someone in Network Rail just itching to take the opportunity, while that span is lifted off its bearings and free of ballast, for a full grit blast and application of fetching (and black) epoxy surface coating to Nuneham Bridge's rusting steel.
Mark
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 09:55, 26th April 2023 |
Known as ‘JFDI’?…..
Well, yeah.
I have an engineering background (mechanical rather than civil) so I do understand that there is a lot more to these things than meets the eye of the lay observer. But even in the exciting new world of Project Speed, I can't help thinking that the general modus operandi is still far too omphaloskeptic.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ChrisB at 08:32, 26th April 2023 |
Known as ‘JFDI’?…..
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:28, 26th April 2023 |
The uncaptioned chap from NR said:
"We'd normally spend 2 or 3 years in planning and designing and getting everything organised"
This situation is very abnormal for a number of reasons, but one can't help wondering if other projects could move forward quicker if there was a greater sense of urgency...
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 08:12, 26th April 2023 |
An update with a video from Paul Clifton of the BBC on Twitter:
The video shows clusters of piles in the river either side of the bridge. So they weren't driven under the bridge.
Screen grab below
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Hafren at 12:29, 23rd April 2023 |
Is there a season cheaper via High Wycombe only? If so, I imagine there are a lot more OXF-LON seasons.
According to BR Fares, no ... virtually everything is "any permitted". I suspect there may have been some sort of agreement as Chiltern were allowed to enter Oxford that they would not undercut GWR?
It looks like fares from Bicester (set by Chiltern) aren't much less, so by providing a cheaper Oxford via HW fare they'd be undercutting their own fares further up the line.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by grahame at 05:57, 23rd April 2023 |
Is there a season cheaper via High Wycombe only? If so, I imagine there are a lot more OXF-LON seasons.
According to BR Fares, no ... virtually everything is "any permitted". I suspect there may have been some sort of agreement as Chiltern were allowed to enter Oxford that they would not undercut GWR?
Wouldn't that be illegal as anti-competitive behaviour. I thought the whole idea of competing services was to introduce competition!
Indeed ... but then isn't the idea of regulated fares to ... well, interfere with aspects of competition, and I suspect that many of the fares available are regulated.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 21:49, 22nd April 2023 |
Paul Clifton’s piece for Rail magazine has a very intresting snippet.
GWR tell him that since the pandemic, there are just 112 season ticket holders from Oxford. And around just 1,500 peak passengers on most days.
GWR tell him that since the pandemic, there are just 112 season ticket holders from Oxford. And around just 1,500 peak passengers on most days.
Could that be because longer distance commuters are much less likely to go into the office 5 days a week.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ellendune at 21:45, 22nd April 2023 |
Is there a season cheaper via High Wycombe only? If so, I imagine there are a lot more OXF-LON seasons.
According to BR Fares, no ... virtually everything is "any permitted". I suspect there may have been some sort of agreement as Chiltern were allowed to enter Oxford that they would not undercut GWR?
Wouldn't that be illegal as anti-competitive behaviour. I thought the whole idea of competing services was to introduce competition!
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by grahame at 21:05, 22nd April 2023 |
Is there a season cheaper via High Wycombe only? If so, I imagine there are a lot more OXF-LON seasons.
According to BR Fares, no ... virtually everything is "any permitted". I suspect there may have been some sort of agreement as Chiltern were allowed to enter Oxford that they would not undercut GWR?
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Oxonhutch at 20:31, 22nd April 2023 |
Is there a season cheaper via High Wycombe only? If so, I imagine there are a lot more OXF-LON seasons.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ChrisB at 19:39, 22nd April 2023 |
So most if not all Didvmcot season holders would hold an Oxford season according to your suggestion. Ther’s still only 112?if these in *total*
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by didcotdean at 19:25, 22nd April 2023 |
Plus some of those season ticket holders will have always been travelling from Didcot as the season from there is the same price so you might as well get the Oxford one for the wider validity.
The question might be how many or few of those are first class. Southeastern justified in part dropping first class as they only had 28 first class seasons across their whole network.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Mark A at 17:59, 22nd April 2023 |
That's surprising, thanks for this.
Looking up the cost on Trainline*, for an annual season ticket, Oxford to London Terminals, any permitted route, that's currently £6096 to Paddington, or somewhat under £17 per day (both the cost and the daily rate might also surprise many people). Add a zone 1-6 travelcard and the price goes up by around £1000.
Speaking with someone who lives there, the Oxford Tube does commuter heavy lifting, especially given the geography of the city, and with an annual pass coming in at £1395.
Mark
*National Rail's season ticket calculator is currently horked.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ChrisB at 17:05, 22nd April 2023 |
Paul Clifton’s piece for Rail magazine has a very intresting snippet.
GWR tell him that since the pandemic, there are just 112 season ticket holders from Oxford. And around just 1,500 peak passengers on most days.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 20:57, 21st April 2023 |
How do you pile into the bed of a river anyway? It may be closed, but the water is still there, and I've seen no mention of a coffer dam. In this case, would you use very long piles (joined if need be) so the tops are above water - and have to cut them down to free the river for reopening? Or would you drive the piles flush with the river bed, using a suitable piling hammer (which I see are standard pieces of kit), and bolt on the trestle underwater?
Putting them in is perhaps not a problem the river bed and clay will seal the pile ............... I would think its the pulling them out and leaving a space where the pile wall was
Although the water table will be quite high and the space will soon seal by collapsing .................. or just bank them all the way home when finished with
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 15:23, 21st April 2023 |
I wonder if those piles are going to be used to temporarily support the spans while the abutment is repiled and rebuild. The temporary piles will not have to support any dynamic weight unlike the abutment.
Yes, that’s how the NR chap Stuart Calvert explains it in the latest video, linked earlier by ChrisB. It’s at about 55s into the video. It was also stated in the previous video he also appeared in.
Paul
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by stuving at 15:17, 21st April 2023 |
How do you pile into the bed of a river anyway? It may be closed, but the water is still there, and I've seen no mention of a coffer dam. In this case, would you use very long piles (joined if need be) so the tops are above water - and have to cut them down to free the river for reopening? Or would you drive the piles flush with the river bed, using a suitable piling hammer (which I see are standard pieces of kit), and bolt on the trestle underwater?
For the abutment, I can see that removing the embankment will allow them to put piles in just beyond the end of the bridge, and they can also put them beside the bearings. That could give enough support and keep the load through the piles vertical (which I think helps). The bearing for the middle girder is the difficult one to get under or all around.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Oxonhutch at 10:09, 21st April 2023 |
Looking at the piles stacked up they look like the type and style used for OLE masts; I wonder if they are making use of the Didcot - Oxford electrification piles that were not driven into the ground before the electrification was stopped
I wonder if those piles are going to be used to temporarily support the spans while the abutment is repiled and rebuild. The temporary piles will not have to support any dynamic weight unlike the abutment.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by Electric train at 21:41, 20th April 2023 |
Another update from Network Rail…
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1649077107660652547?s=46&t=ah-SsHksqViJs35eOx7jsQ
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1649077107660652547?s=46&t=ah-SsHksqViJs35eOx7jsQ
Looking at the piles stacked up they look like the type and style used for OLE masts; I wonder if they are making use of the Didcot - Oxford electrification piles that were not driven into the ground before the electrification was stopped
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by ChrisB at 20:13, 20th April 2023 |
Another update from Network Rail…
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1649077107660652547?s=46&t=ah-SsHksqViJs35eOx7jsQ
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by TonyN at 21:38, 19th April 2023 |
This is certainly generating some unusual freight paths.
Returning from Derby to Worcestershire Parkway this afternoon as my Cross Country train entered New Street at around 17:25 a freight train went past us heading North out of New Street!
Real Time trains tells me it was from Appleford tip to Milford sidings.
Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure Posted by paul7575 at 12:50, 19th April 2023 |
East West Rail construction site I think, not too far from Quainton Road of the Buckinghamshire Railway Centre.
It’s more the HS2 railhead than EWR, although some material is being used by HS2 for their contracted part of the EWR embankments where they cross.It’s fair to say however that these are not reactionary diversions for the Nuneham viaduct failure, they’re running on their normal route in the WTT for this whole timetable period.