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Considering both climate change, and the present very high price of diesel fuel, one might hope that ALL the new trains will be battery, or battery OHLE hybrids.
Whilst there maybe a few routes for which diesel power is more suitable, cascaded diesel units will be available for many years yet. No need to build ANY new diesel units.
| Re: Long Term Rail Strategy (LRTS) In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [380194/32507/40] Posted by ChrisB at 11:45, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
passengers increasingly expect straightforward and independent boarding,
Level Boarding at last to be specified for new rolling stock!
Standard 30 minute frequency, 5 car train, Swindon to Weymouth anyone, or just 2 through trains a week, 3 in summer, of 2 or 3 carriages each as it is at present? That improvement in frequency and capacity would sure as heck make it attractive to increase revenue. And it might be attractive enough to allow fares to rise. Even with higher fares, I doubt the extra cost would reduce subsidy needs.
And there you have it. They won't do this unless it can be shown that it WILL do so
Edit just to clarify quoting
Car parking is now subject to a charge, which the feedback I get from my occasional chats with a couple of businesses has had a detrimental effect on their trade.
Although there is quite a lot of research to show that shopkeepers habitually overestimate the number of customers who come by car:
“While only 6.6% of shoppers traveled to the streets by car, on average traders [shopkeepers] estimated 21.6% of their customers use this mode; a discrepancy of 15%… Further they underestimate transit, pedestrian, and bicycle travel by 8.1%, 6.2% and 3% respectively.”
(from https://ggwash.org/view/96602/survey-most-shopkeepers-shoppers-overestimate-car-use, which has lots of interesting links)
To be honest I think 90% of the High Street problem is online shopping. We buy stuff from Amazon and eBay and the like, not Debenhams or BHS or Woolworths. Town centres are just too big for modern shopping habits. The only options are to major on the visitor destination/experience angle - as JohnM says, "having a pedestrianized high street during most of the day made it magnitudes nicer as a place to shop/loiter" - or to shrink the town centre. Much better to turn town centre buildings over to residential use, where the residents might spend time and money in the town centre, than to build acres of new suburbia where the residents will just drive to Tesco.
| Re: Long Term Rail Strategy (LRTS) In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [380192/32507/40] Posted by Bob_Blakey at 11:18, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
.....GBR will use detailed route-level analysis to determine the right level of electrification to support the removal of diesel traction. This will generally require around a quarter of the currently non-electrified railway to be energised.....
I am not sure these people have much of a clue; when they say 'removal of diesel traction' do they mean partially or completely? Energisation of around 25% of the existing non-electified network implies the former. One assumes they think the remaining 75% can be served by purely battery- or hydrogen-powered rolling stock. Best of luck with that, it would cost billions.
Or are they thinking the madness that is discontinuous electrification coupled with a large fleet of new battery-electric trains will do the job?
If I was in charge there would be a proper rolling programme of 'full fat' electrification.

Also a potentially important strategy shift in that some or all of the new vehicles may be directly purchased and not leased out by ROSCO's.
| Re: Ideas for a day out? In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380190/32559/31] Posted by Trowres at 11:07, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
Those restrictions seem to exclude Weymouth. 
Nailsea? (That includes Tyntesfield, a rambling National Trust property, just to the north).

Nailsea? (That includes Tyntesfield, a rambling National Trust property, just to the north).

Slight bias involved?
. I have visited Nailsea, as friends live there. Would like to visit Tyntesfield again, but there doesn't seem to be a safe walking route between N&B station and the NT site?Thought I would quote the section on Regional fleet (one of 4 types of train, the others being Intercity, commuter and metro) from newly published Rolling stock strategy, as it gives hints to what is intended
GBR’s regional express fleets will operate medium to long-distance services on routes with a range of line speeds connecting cities, towns and rural communities. They will prioritise seating capacity and passenger comfort while providing appropriate luggage and cycle space. Some standing capacity may be appropriate on specific routes, but the overall design emphasis will remain on seated travel
So comfort will be the priority on Regional Express
Meanwhile for those more interested in Bristol or Exeter commuter services
GBR’s commuter fleets will serve suburban and outer-suburban passenger flows into and around major cities. They will balance seating and standing accommodation, with layouts designed to support high passenger volumes, efficient boarding and alighting and changing demand through the day, including appropriate cycle provision.
The strategy seems to favour Battery electric multiple units, but there will be many years old cascaded trains, with an expectation that about a quarter of the currently unelectrified network will be (eventually) wired
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6aba4b47997a4b2950ccefc0/gbr-rolling-stock-infrastructure-strategy.pdf
| Re: Long Term Rail Strategy (LRTS) In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [380188/32507/40] Posted by Electric train at 10:35, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
Quite a lot of ideas and intentions (but no actual detail) of way forward
That is true but it is a strategy and not a plan. I would venture that it is more likely to be delivered than any of the previous rail strategies of the last 30 years.
The method of funding changes for Network Rail Control Period (CP) 7 is the last one, it changes to "Funding Period (FP) 1)" for GBR this to reflect a whole industry approach.
| Re: Long Term Rail Strategy (LRTS) In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [380187/32507/40] Posted by grahame at 09:58, 29th September 2026 Already liked by Witham Bobby | ![]() |
I have mirrored that (here) for easy access into the far future, and so that it comes up in our searches - and categorised it as a "key" document - one of just 64 such documents in the archive of 2400.
It's 26 pages - not read and absorbed it all yet. In the earlier part I note
What passengers want is changing. Reliability remains fundamental but passengers increasingly expect straightforward and independent boarding, clear information, digital connectivity, personal security and facilities suited to a wider range of journeys. The railway must serve an ageing and diverse population, support leisure and tourism as well as commuting and business travel and make train travel attractive enough to grow revenue and reduce reliance on subsidy.
Reliability not frequency, nor size of the network, I note. Good to see "facilities" noted and whilst this is a train related paper, that overlaps a little onto the stations. The whole is qualitative rather than quantitative - as I say, nothing on frequency, and not on length of trains either. Standard 30 minute frequency, 5 car train, Swindon to Weymouth anyone, or just 2 through trains a week, 3 in summer, of 2 or 3 carriages each as it is at present? That improvement in frequency and capacity would sure as heck make it attractive to increase revenue. And it might be attractive enough to allow fares to rise. Even with higher fares, I doubt the extra cost would reduce subsidy needs.
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [380186/22771/12] Posted by Mark A at 09:50, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [380185/22771/12] Posted by Mark A at 09:47, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
**snip**
As for salt water/corrosion effects in the problematic cl 175 units, well we have yet to find out , but know two years stood and forgotten uncared for at Holyhead in the Salt / wet air did their electrics no good, a well known fact to all but their owning ROSCo Angel and DfT ‘remotes’.
As for salt water/corrosion effects in the problematic cl 175 units, well we have yet to find out , but know two years stood and forgotten uncared for at Holyhead in the Salt / wet air did their electrics no good, a well known fact to all but their owning ROSCo Angel and DfT ‘remotes’.
They stored them where?
!!!| Re: High Streets - thriving, changing, dying in 2026? In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380184/32553/31] Posted by Mark A at 09:46, 29th September 2026 Already liked by Red Squirrel | ![]() |
Ah, Nailsea has a post office. Good. Bath: your move.
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [380183/22771/12] Posted by AMLAG at 09:45, 29th September 2026 Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby | ![]() |
To be quite expected due Spring High Tides (4 mtres) this evening and Strong SE winds of more than 18 mph forecast so undesirable for the newer trains ( IETs ) to stop between D.Warren and Teignmouth and passrs thus travel in the local and a bit more reliable trains.
As for salt water/corrosion effects in the problematic cl 175 units, well we have yet to find out , but know two years stood and forgotten uncared for at Holyhead in the Salt / wet air did their electrics no good, a well known fact to all but their owning ROSCo Angel and DfT ‘remotes’.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026 In "London to the Cotswolds" [380182/31371/14] Posted by charles_uk at 09:16, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:43 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
and the following service:
Facilities on the 08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:26.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. Service full and standing from Kingham. First class is declassified. There are no reservations on this service.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. Service full and standing from Kingham. First class is declassified. There are no reservations on this service.
| Re: TransWilts - the way forward In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [380181/17488/18] Posted by grahame at 08:47, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
10 years ago today - how time flies!
The nature of progress is that there are big increments and then consolidations. 10 years ago today, TransWilts trains through the day switched from being a trial service to being a formal ongoing part of the franchise, and from being a local community group that had declared itself to be a community rail partnership to a much more formal Community Rail Partnership. And we celebrated loading hundreds of people onto an HST every weekend through the summer to Weymouth - not really to promote Weymouth, but rather to promote the availability of the service.
We have seen incremental changes since - the platform rebuilt and extended, longer trains, a handful of additional trains that now give us a thin service "all day every day". But we are still very much "work in progress". On the train service side, we need more trains and more reliable trains. On the station access side, we need it to be much more friendly and customer aware - better walking routes, busses that connect, and a friendly and helpful welcome to customers.
| Re: Long Term Rail Strategy (LRTS) In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [380180/32507/40] Posted by John D at 08:31, 29th September 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
The rolling stock and Infrastructure strategy is now published
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6aba4b47997a4b2950ccefc0/gbr-rolling-stock-infrastructure-strategy.pdf
A couple of snippets
GBR will use detailed route-level analysis to determine the right level of electrification to support the removal of diesel traction. This will generally require around a quarter of the currently non-electrified railway to be energised
GBR’s future train orders will be structured around a small number of defined ‘fleet families’ specified to align to the main passenger markets
Which it then describes each of Intercity, Regional Express, Commuter, Metro with comfort, seating, standing, other facilities. Interestingly it suggests some Metro fleet will be used on seasonal holiday routes to provide extra luggage and cycle spaceQuite a lot of ideas and intentions (but no actual detail) of way forward
| Re: Work begins to replace Havant station's ageing footbridge In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [380179/32558/20] Posted by grahame at 07:37, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
I think the chances of over head wires ever being installed on the that south coast line is very remote.
"Ever" is a very dangerous word. I am reminded that the original electrification on the London and South Coast Railway was overhead, and that was replaced by third rail around 100 years ago. Third rail around the Newcastle area was replaced by overhead ...
| Re: Ideas for a day out? In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380178/32559/31] Posted by grahame at 07:30, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
Do you have any suggestions for a day out, meeting the following criteria?
- A day trip by rail from Western Wiltshire
- Enough at the destination to occupy about five hours
- Decent cafe (doesn't have to be Michelin...)
- Destination doesn't look post-apocalyptic, which includes places that have become car-dominated
These days, private cars dominate so many places, but there are many excelllent sections within towns and cities which aren't overrun ...
Places I have enjoyed by train from West Wiltshire include:
Bath
Bristol
Frome
Oxford
Salisbury
Stroud
Gloucester
Cardiff - Central and Bay
Barry Island
Penarth
Salisbury
Hamble
London
Marlow
Dawlish
Exmouth
Poole
Weymouth
Chepstow
Worcester
Malvern
Bournemouth
Southsea
Tiverton (by bus from Parkway and canal walk back)
Isle of Wight (if you allow a ferry and have a deep pocket!)
And places that I really should take a (further) look at might include:
Exeter
Reading
Cheltenham Spa
Chichester and onwards toward Brighton
Sherbourne, Gillingham, Axminster, Honiton
Didcot, for rail centre
Less that 5 hours (for me), but fun:
Yetminster
Avoncliff
Severn Beach
Lymington
Brockenhurst
Bicester Village
Oldfield Park (to Midford)
Yatton
Burnham (for Highbridge)
Overrun with cars IMHO from the station might include Dorchester, Weston-super-mare and Newport
Not listing post-apololyptic places, nor "home" places within West Wiltshire. Many more options if you allow a relatively short bus ride from a railhead. And others if you are looking for countryside / canal walk
| Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions In "London to the West" [380177/22771/12] Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:14, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
This has got to be a mistake, surely?
17:36 London Paddington to Plymouth due 21:25
17:36 London Paddington to Plymouth due 21:25 will no longer call at Dawlish Warren, Dawlish and Teignmouth.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.
17:50 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:59
17:50 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:59 will no longer call at Teignmouth and Dawlish.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.
| Re: Interral pass sale - buy until the end of September for use by August 2027 In "Fare's Fair" [380176/32535/4] Posted by grahame at 06:43, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
Lisa and I will be working out over the weekend what to buy in the sale - very unlikely to be "nothing"; now is the time to look forward into 2027. We have some plans already, and I would anticipate sticking with the formula of the last couple of years with a variety of together and just-graham trips, with the former being far more town and location bases and the latter taking on more adventurous / exotic rail network stuff.
I am not a great one for family / friend company in large swathes, but rather it works really well in shorter segments and I would be happy to link up with members for a day or few, especially to help newcomers to this sort of educational / learning holiday set their feet under the table of these adventures.
I am not a great one for family / friend company in large swathes, but rather it works really well in shorter segments and I would be happy to link up with members for a day or few, especially to help newcomers to this sort of educational / learning holiday set their feet under the table of these adventures.
Well - we now owe the credit card company rather more than was planned for the end of September, rather than buying in the Interrail Black Friday sale as we have done over the past three years. When and where we will be going remains roughly thought about for the next month or two and pretty vague for 2027.
The National Railway Museum in their Podcast episode 7Our "Most Controversial Episode Yet? Beeching Cuts" the head creator and one of the other museum creators discuss the lead up to the Beeching, Marples era and also touch on the 1982 Serpell report.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3biVm1ju9x8
| Re: Ideas for a day out? In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380174/32559/31] Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:12, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
Do you have any suggestions for a day out, meeting the following criteria?
- Destination doesn't look post-apocalyptic
That's Swindon off the list then!
| Re: Ideas for a day out? In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380173/32559/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:49, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
Those restrictions seem to exclude Weymouth.

Nailsea? (That includes Tyntesfield, a rambling National Trust property, just to the north).

| Re: Work begins to replace Havant station's ageing footbridge In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [380172/32558/20] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 02:41, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
With thanks for your post here, infoman, I rather think that is a possible issue you need to take up with Hampshire County Council and Network Rail, who are actually doing the work.
| Re: Work begins to replace Havant station's ageing footbridge In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [380171/32558/20] Posted by infoman at 02:06, 29th September 2026 | ![]() |
If i have got this wrong please correct me.
I was under the impression that all new structures(bridges?) that they have to clearance for the possibility over head wires installation.
Although the images are not very clear if their is enough room for the over head wires
I think the chances of over head wires ever being installed on the that south coast line is very remote.
| Ideas for a day out? In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380170/32559/31] Posted by Trowres at 00:36, 29th September 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Do you have any suggestions for a day out, meeting the following criteria?
- A day trip by rail from Western Wiltshire
- Enough at the destination to occupy about five hours
- Decent cafe (doesn't have to be Michelin...)
- Destination doesn't look post-apocalyptic, which includes places that have become car-dominated
My view from Nailsea (a town of over 20,000 residents): I'll try to keep this brief, as most of the points have been covered in posts above.
Nailsea High Street is a shadow of what it used to be, when we first moved here, over thirty years ago. Long gone are the independent family butchers, bakers, greengrocers.
Similarly, long gone are the 'big four' Banks, and Nationwide Building Society, each closing down over the years. We now have a 'banking hub', sponsored by the Post Office - but that's only available for pre-booked face-to-face appointments with a representative from a bank, not for any financial transactions.
Many of the previous independent shops in the High Street are now Turkish barbers (I've lost count of them), Chinese takeaways (there are now two, after a Chinese restaurant directly across the street from one of them closed), two nail bars and a myriad of charity shops.
Car parking is now subject to a charge, which the feedback I get from my occasional chats with a couple of businesses has had a detrimental effect on their trade.
A rank of what used to be shops towards the upper end of the High Street is being extensively refurbished / rebuilt: I haven't been able to ascertain, but I think they're going to become residential.
To end on a more positive note: we do have some successful and clearly busy shops on our High Street: Waitrose at one end, Tesco at the other, a Boots the Chemist (and Opticians) and a Post Office.
Chris from Nailsea.

| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [380168/31163/26] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:52, 28th September 2026 | ![]() |
You certainly don't want a large fire in the Thatch ...

| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [380167/31163/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:44, 28th September 2026 | ![]() |
Cancellations to services between Reading and Newbury
Due to a fire next to the track at Thatcham all lines are closed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Train services between Reading and Newbury will be cancelled.
Customer Advice
We've been informed of a large fire close to the railway in the Thatcham area. As a result it has been necessary to close the railway, and no trains will be going through the area for the rest of the day.
| Re: Why are buses getting slower? In "Buses and other ways to travel" [380166/32544/5] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:39, 28th September 2026 | ![]() |
Traffic seems to be slower.
Traffic is indeed getting slower - due at least partly to the ever increasing number of 20mph speed limits being introduced - with speed cameras to enforce them, sometimes. I experienced the delay effects of that, in my grocery delivery van driving days.
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