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Where was Finn today, 15th June 2025. In "The Lighter Side" [362304/30362/30] Posted by JayMac at 16:05, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Finn and I are currently enjoying a weekend away. Where are we today?

Re: Air India flight to London Gatwick crashed in Ahmedabad In "Introductions and chat" [362303/30350/1] Posted by broadgage at 16:03, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The fact that the landing gear was not retracted suggests two possibilities to me.
Firstly a major loss of auxiliary power, including that required to retract the gear. Possible but unlikely.
Secondly, that the crew realised that there was a problem, and left the gear down in the hope of returning to the airport for an emergency landing. or perhaps making an emergency landing elsewhere.
Re: A coffee story with a difference ... In "The Lighter Side" [362302/30360/30] Posted by JayMac at 15:58, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'll have one coffee to go.
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362301/569/25] Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:44, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
GWR had years to address this issue when it was in their control before the DfT tightened their grip. Instead of doing so they left it on the "too difficult" pile.
It's never been within GWR's control. That was the whole point of privatisation!
It's been suggested on another forum that Liskeard-Looe is often the first branch to be sacrificed on a Sunday when there is crew shortage as it's the easiest one to bustitute.
Re: Gone to the dogs? A look at greyhound racing's future - June 2025 In "Introductions and chat" [362300/30358/1] Posted by broadgage at 15:10, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I am opposed to greyhound racing.
There seems little DIRECT cruelty involved, almost all of the dogs almost always survive the race, in stark contrast to horse racing in which many horses are killed.
My concern is the disposable way in which the dogs are treated. Many are killed or dumped if not successful, or when "retired"
Some end up as family pets, but many are dumped or killed. They are bred or selected for a strong instinct to chase prey and regrettably often even pet greyhounds kill cats, smaller dogs or wildlife.
As with horse racing, I do not wish to attend dog races, nor to gamble on the results, or to offer any other encouragement.
Re: Bus Service 205 In "Transport for London" [362299/30357/46] Posted by ChrisB at 15:09, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
TfL did put out a consultation - and I thought it got a mention somewhere in these pages about a year ago? Anyway, if didn't, I did hear about it & responded negatively, so the word was got out.
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362298/569/25] Posted by ChrisB at 14:53, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
What do you think the future holds for local Rail User Groups when it's all owned and run by the nation?
That is a superb question.
"What do you think" ... I think (I know!!) that I don't know enough about what the future holds. I can visualise good and bad scenarios; the question comes do we [just] wait and see or do we look to partner and persuade in what gets set up or not, and in what authority it has.
Partner with who(m), exactly?
Re: Weymouth - Westbury cancellations, 14 and 15 June 2025 In "Heart of Wessex" [362297/30356/19] Posted by Timmer at 13:20, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The 13.32 Swindon to Weymouth has been reinstated from Westbury to Weymouth so one cheer rather than two that someone has been found to provide cover for part of the journey.
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362296/569/25] Posted by a-driver at 13:18, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
GWR had years to address this issue when it was in their control before the DfT tightened their grip. Instead of doing so they left it on the "too difficult" pile.
It's never been within GWR's control. That was the whole point of privatisation!
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362295/569/25] Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:52, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/06.
Customer Advice
Due to crew shortages, we are unable to run train services today.
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/06.
Customer Advice
Due to crew shortages, we are unable to run train services today.
An astonishing failure ... on what would be a peak early summer's day. Should someone come back and explain that there's a local transmitted flu or something else that has struck all the crews in the last 24 hours, this service decimation is "unforgivable" ... but of course it will probably get forgotten in the mists of time and the fog of the next issue.
Two questions when something goes wrong:
1. What lessons will be learned from today?
2. How will those lessons result in actions which make sure this should not happen again?
1. Lessons were learnt a long time ago.
2. “7-day railway” discussions have been ongoing for sometime, unfortunately the DfT won’t release any further funding to resolve the issue. They want to continue with the “cheap sticky plaster” fixes which we all know doesn’t work.
The issue isn’t with GWR. GWR run the operation as per the contract outlined by the DfT. It’s for the DfT to sort.
GWR had years to address this issue when it was in their control before the DfT tightened their grip. Instead of doing so they left it on the "too difficult" pile.
Re: Weymouth - Westbury cancellations, 14 and 15 June 2025 In "Heart of Wessex" [362294/30356/19] Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:49, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Today being Fathers Day, when some families would like to have been able to have a day out in Weymouth, just for example?
Could it be that some GWR drivers / train manager are fathers too and we have a case of "More fathers than usual being required at home at the same time"
I'm sure virtually every Father working today feels the same.
The fact that the date has been in the calendar for some time however seems to have enabled other businesses who can operate basic workforce planning to sustain their service.
Re: Bus Service 205 In "Transport for London" [362293/30357/46] Posted by stuving at 12:24, 15th June 2025 Already liked by rogerw | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I understand the 30 is changing too and will provide a route as far as Euston from the current 205 stops too.
No - the 30 won't run west of Euston. The Paddington-Euston (and Kings Cross too) route will be covered by 27 and 205, each part-way and overlapping.

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [362292/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 11:42, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
16:43 Frome to Swindon due 17:34
16:43 Frome to Swindon due 17:34 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
16:43 Frome to Swindon due 17:34 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham and Swindon.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
17:44 Swindon to Salisbury due 18:55
17:44 Swindon to Salisbury due 18:55 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
17:44 Swindon to Salisbury due 18:55 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Re: Heathfield Tunnel reopens to walkers for 60th anniversary In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362291/30355/51] Posted by Mark A at 11:38, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hoping the spiral ramp bit attracts a gardening group too, it's compact, defined, manageable, prominent.
Mark
Re: Melksham's rail service - where are we, on the anniversary of being Beechinged? In "TransWilts line" [362290/30162/18] Posted by grahame at 11:37, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Further pictures from our legal art wall, new art and the artists at work.



Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362289/569/25] Posted by grahame at 11:17, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
What do you think the future holds for local Rail User Groups when it's all owned and run by the nation?
That is a superb question.
"What do you think" ... I think (I know!!) that I don't know enough about what the future holds. I can visualise good and bad scenarios; the question comes do we [just] wait and see or do we look to partner and persuade in what gets set up or not, and in what authority it has.
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362288/569/25] Posted by a-driver at 11:10, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I look forward to the time that everything is owned and run by the nation so there won't be (sometimes correct) buck passing. I just fear that the nation will follow the time lines taken by the DfT which is the nation and things will get done far far far too slowly if at all.
What do you think the future holds for local Rail User Groups when it's all owned and run by the nation?
Re: Heathfield Tunnel reopens to walkers for 60th anniversary In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362287/30355/51] Posted by grahame at 11:09, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... I'm now thinking of examples of other instances of shortish tunnels in urban areas that don't acquire a bad rap, so it can be done ...
Indeed ... after MANY years of looking for a "solution" for the subway (= shortish tunnel) to Melksham Station, a solution has been found in a legal art all. Not only the initial job, but now continuing.
Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362286/569/25] Posted by grahame at 10:53, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The issue isn’t with GWR. GWR run the operation as per the contract outlined by the DfT. It’s for the DfT to sort.
I look forward to the time that everything is owned and run by the nation so there won't be (sometimes correct) buck passing. I just fear that the nation will follow the time lines taken by the DfT which is the nation and things will get done far far far too slowly if at all.
Today being Fathers Day, when some families would like to have been able to have a day out in Weymouth, just for example?
Could it be that some GWR drivers / train manager are fathers too and we have a case of "More fathers than usual being required at home at the same time"
Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/06.
Customer Advice
Due to crew shortages, we are unable to run train services today.
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/06.
Customer Advice
Due to crew shortages, we are unable to run train services today.
An astonishing failure ... on what would be a peak early summer's day. Should someone come back and explain that there's a local transmitted flu or something else that has struck all the crews in the last 24 hours, this service decimation is "unforgivable" ... but of course it will probably get forgotten in the mists of time and the fog of the next issue.
Two questions when something goes wrong:
1. What lessons will be learned from today?
2. How will those lessons result in actions which make sure this should not happen again?
1. Lessons were learnt a long time ago.
2. “7-day railway” discussions have been ongoing for sometime, unfortunately the DfT won’t release any further funding to resolve the issue. They want to continue with the “cheap sticky plaster” fixes which we all know doesn’t work.
The issue isn’t with GWR. GWR run the operation as per the contract outlined by the DfT. It’s for the DfT to sort.
Re: Heathfield Tunnel reopens to walkers for 60th anniversary In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362283/30355/51] Posted by Mark A at 10:45, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
It might be that in part that's because it's not open as a matter of course. It'll help if it's put on a more functional active travel route too - I'm now thinking of examples of other instances of shortish tunnels in urban areas that don't acquire a bad rap, so it can be done. The retrospective publicity around the 2007 opening very much hands the chalice to the people treating the location in an antisocial fashion too.
Going off at a tangent, the sight of Heathfield Station's building and entrance on the road above the station site is a bit achy: here's Google Streetview.
https://tinyurl.com/4pr3f7yk
The disused stations site is informative on both the station and the line, and makes mention of its distinctive source of fuel for the station lighting.
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/heathfield_sussex/
Mark
Re: Heathfield Tunnel reopens to walkers for 60th anniversary In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362282/30355/51] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 10:11, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From Wikipedia:
In 2019, Wealden District Council stated: "due to constant vandalism and anti-social behaviour, the tunnel is to remain closed indefinitely with no plans to look into it".
So it seems occasional openings such as this will be all that happens, which is a pity. I wonder why this particular location suffers more than similar tunnels elsewhere such as in the Bristol/Bath area.
Re: Weymouth - Westbury cancellations, 14 and 15 June 2025 In "Heart of Wessex" [362281/30356/19] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:09, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
With thanks to my colleague Timmer for his update posts, I have now further expanded the heading of this whole topic, to draw attention to this very frustrating situation.
Today being Fathers Day, when some families would like to have been able to have a day out in Weymouth, just for example?
CfN.

Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362280/569/25] Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:45, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Multiple cancellations today due to crew shortage - the type of sunny weekend summer day when branch lines such as this get the chance to really show their worth, but GWR have failed to provide anyone to run them.
Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/06.
Customer Advice
Due to crew shortages, we are unable to run train services today.
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/06.
Customer Advice
Due to crew shortages, we are unable to run train services today.
An astonishing failure ... on what would be a peak early summer's day. Should someone come back and explain that there's a local transmitted flu or something else that has struck all the crews in the last 24 hours, this service decimation is "unforgivable" ... but of course it will probably get forgotten in the mists of time and the fog of the next issue.
Two questions when something goes wrong:
1. What lessons will be learned from today?
2. How will those lessons result in actions which make sure this should not happen again?
1) Judging by the repetition in similar circumstances across the region over a number of years, none.
2) They won't. GWR are staggering towards the end of their franchise, there is little or no motivation for them to make the efforts required.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [362279/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 09:38, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Quoting from Heart of Wessex ...
Updated the subject title to reflect another bad day on the Heart of Wessex Line:
08.01 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway Cancelled
11.32 Swindon - Weymouth Cancelled
13.32 Swindon - Weymouth Cancelled
16.05 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads Part cancelled*
*starts at Westbury
Only four trains you may say, but on Sundays, where the service is a lot less frequent, that leaves some big gaps in the timetable.
Like yesterday, is this because of only Westbury crew signing Weymouth now?
08.01 Weymouth - Bristol Parkway Cancelled
11.32 Swindon - Weymouth Cancelled
13.32 Swindon - Weymouth Cancelled
16.05 Weymouth - Bristol Temple Meads Part cancelled*
*starts at Westbury
Only four trains you may say, but on Sundays, where the service is a lot less frequent, that leaves some big gaps in the timetable.
Like yesterday, is this because of only Westbury crew signing Weymouth now?
On the TransWilts service, don't forget that the first round trip was a rail replacement bus this morning - not really a replacement but a substitution by something different and inferior.
A lot of TransWilts southbound in the morning use it for onward connections which leave Westbury (today) at ...
09:32 and 09:57 (yes, 2 at 25 minutes apart) for Weymouth
09:37 for London
09:54 for Penzance
10:02 for Portsmouth
and these would normally offer connections off the train from Swindon. Guess what - the bus arrives at Westbury at 10:14 and that breaks all of these connections. Only 2 other GWR trains are timetabled to leave Westbury before 11:00 and could be described as connection - 10:40 to London (by Real Time Trains tells me it's not expected until 11:10) and a train at 10:41 which - oh dear - heads up to Swindon which is where the direction the bus came in from in the first place!
Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion In "Across the West" [362278/18719/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:12, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Summer Sunday, so.................
Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 15:00 15/06.
Customer Advice
Due to crew shortages, we are unable to run train services today.
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We have very limited road transport in place, taxis will shuttle hourly. Please note, they may not run to the train timetable. Please see station staff.
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We're sorry for the delay to your journey.
Re: 15th June 2018 - GWR Community Rail Conference In "Diary - what's happening when?" [362277/19245/34] Posted by grahame at 09:06, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Came up "on this day". A conference that was the turning point (or rather brought things to a head) for me. Lovely to be back in Swindon yesterday - with European Passengers' Federation / TravelWatch SouthWest, and lovely to have local support there from the likes of the Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire CRPs helping bring in the local level. After the conference I travelled home and was joined by one of the key EPF officers who's stopping in the UK for a few more days, and we travelled on a nicely busy (running in time) TransWilts train where I left him as he carried on to make a connection in Westbury.
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [362276/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 09:02, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sunday June 15
15/06/25 07:36 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:15 will be started from Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/06/2025 20:13
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/06/2025 20:13
RTT reports this as starting from Paddington.
15/06/25 13:12 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 15:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/06/2025 20:18
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:14/06/2025 20:18
Re: Falmouth Branch Line - stations, facilities, services and improvements In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [362275/33/25] Posted by old original at 08:57, 15th June 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Naive question. ........Could a 5 car IET go down the docks?
GWR sent an HST to Falmouth to celebrate the 150th Anniversary of the branch, so, probably, yes ?
but it would take longer to load / unload at the docks as only the front half would platformed and so a lot of passenegers would have to walk through the train...