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Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed In "South Western services" [360300/25368/42] Posted by grahame at 21:18, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The plot thickens. Thinking to check Bath Spa - Paddington to compare current costs vs via Salisbury, neither the National Rail site nor GWR will list the super off peak return fare. This might be me: I'll have another look on... another day. (Off peak Bath Spa to Paddington with a railcard comes up at £69.70, the super off peak fare is listed on brfares.com as £50.50).
Mark
Mark
I have found that the GWR ticket purchase system is failing to honour "via" requests but has been honouring "avoid" so you're likely to find that it's missing if you do "via Saisbury" but offered if you do "avoid Reading". May be that has been fixed and I'm not around long enough to check just at the moment
Re: Thoughts on person being taken ill near (Trowbridge) Station In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360299/30119/21] Posted by RailCornwall at 21:04, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sadly the geography of Cornwall means there's little opportunity for neighbourly assistance and the charity operating the Cornwall service has just had to run a campaign for it's own second helicopter. It really is shameful that there's not even token NHS funding for these services now.
Re: Thoughts on person being taken ill near (Trowbridge) Station In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360298/30119/21] Posted by ChrisB at 20:55, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
One often wonders what people do with all these sort of videos
Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed In "South Western services" [360296/25368/42] Posted by ChrisB at 20:35, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Have you checked brfares.com?
If it’s still there, then it’s in the fares manual & the TOC(s) are suppressing it….if they aren’t listed, then the fare has been withdrawn
Re: Ticket offices - changes afoot? In "Fare's Fair" [360295/29965/4] Posted by bradshaw at 20:19, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I called at the Axminster ticket office to ask for a AXM to EXD anytime return and an EXD-PYN off peak day return, commenting that it was cheaper than a single through ticket.
The ticket clerk advised me that it would be cheaper to get the AXM-EST(St Thomas) as this was outside the Old NSE restriction time zone for Senior Railcards.
The plan was always to catch the 07.36 to EXD. It perplexes me as to why the splitting of the ticket at EXD as originally intended would lead to a reduction in price from £44+ to £33+ as I was intending to use the same train!
We will see how it turns out tomorrow…….
Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed In "South Western services" [360294/25368/42] Posted by Mark A at 19:48, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The plot thickens. Thinking to check Bath Spa - Paddington to compare current costs vs via Salisbury, neither the National Rail site nor GWR will list the super off peak return fare. This might be me: I'll have another look on... another day. (Off peak Bath Spa to Paddington with a railcard comes up at £69.70, the super off peak fare is listed on brfares.com as £50.50).
Mark
Re: Welcoming Phantom to our moderator team In "News, Help and Assistance" [360291/23105/29] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:48, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Frankly, I am appalled - that I apparently haven't read this particular topic before.
Welcome (very belatedly!) to the moderator team on our Coffee Shop forum, Phantom.

Good luck to you, administering any Bristol City FC forum.

(I used to work for Doug Harman ... in a previous life ...)
Titanic scan reveals ground-breaking details of ship's final hours In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [360289/30124/52] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:15, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
This is something of a conundrum to me, even as an accomplished 'mover & merger of topics', here on the Coffee Shop forum.
I'm posting this link here, as it's rather more 'overseas' than UK (albeit it was the Titanic's maiden voyage from the UK).
From the BBC:

A detailed analysis of a full-sized digital scan of the Titanic has revealed new insight into the doomed liner's final hours.
The exact 3D replica shows the violence of how the ship ripped in two as it sank after hitting an iceberg in 1912 - 1,500 people lost their lives in the disaster.
The scan provides a new view of a boiler room, confirming eye-witness accounts that engineers worked right to the end to keep the ship's lights on.
And a computer simulation also suggests that punctures in the hull the size of A4 pieces of paper led to the ship's demise.

"Titanic is the last surviving eyewitness to the disaster, and she still has stories to tell," said Parks Stephenson, a Titanic analyst.
The scan has been studied for a new documentary by National Geographic and Atlantic Productions called Titanic: The Digital Resurrection.
The wreck, which lies 3,800m down in the icy waters of the Atlantic, was mapped using underwater robots.
More than 700,000 images, taken from every angle, were used to create the "digital twin", which was revealed exclusively to the world by BBC News in 2023. Because the wreck is so large and lies in the gloom of the deep, exploring it with submersibles only shows tantalising snapshots. The scan, however, provides the first full view of the Titanic.
The immense bow lies upright on the seafloor, almost as if the ship were continuing its voyage. But sitting 600m away, the stern is a heap of mangled metal. The damage was caused as it slammed into the sea floor after the ship broke in half.

The new mapping technology is providing a different way to study the ship. "It's like a crime scene: you need to see what the evidence is, in the context of where it is," said Parks Stephenson. "And having a comprehensive view of the entirety of the wreck site is key to understanding what happened here."
The scan shows new close-up details, including a porthole that was most likely smashed by the iceberg. It tallies with the eye-witness reports of survivors that ice came into some people's cabins during the collision.

Experts have been studying one of the Titanic's huge boiler rooms - it's easy to see on the scan because it sits at the rear of the bow section at the point where the ship broke in two.
Passengers said that the lights were still on as the ship plunged beneath the waves.
The digital replica shows that some of the boilers are concave, which suggests they were still operating as they were plunged into the water. Lying on the deck of the stern, a valve has also been discovered in an open position, indicating that steam was still flowing into the electricity generating system.
This would have been thanks to a team of engineers led by Joseph Bell who stayed behind to shovel coal into the furnaces to keep the lights on. All died in the disaster but their heroic actions saved many lives, said Parks Stephenson. "They kept the lights and the power working to the end, to give the crew time to launch the lifeboats safely with some light instead of in absolute darkness," he told the BBC. "They held the chaos at bay as long as possible, and all of that was kind of symbolised by this open steam valve just sitting there on the stern."

(Article continues)
I was aboard a Merchant Navy ship, many years ago, and all of the engineer officers, at dinner, had crimson ribands sewn around the cuffs of their formal uniforms - in tribute to all of those engineer officers who went down with the RMS Titanic, I was told.

Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed In "South Western services" [360288/25368/42] Posted by Mark A at 18:14, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Graham posting observations on train fares in January '24 in another thread:
The Bristol / Bath to London day return fare, it's been withdrawn, yes?
There are still two off peak day return fares Bath Spa to London via Salisbury and Warminster there - first class and standard class - according to BRfares. Still there from 2nd January too. Price is £66.20 (adult, no railcard)
If you want something a bit different, try an anytime day return from Portway Park and Ride to London via Warminster and Salisbury at £43.40 - it's restricted in that you may not arrive into Waterloo before 10:00, but there are no restrictions on the return time.
Checking this again, April 2025 and the Bath Spa - Waterloo off-peak day return is still on the system (using the National Rail web site, I can't find it on the GWR site which appears to ignore 'Via Salisbury'). It's now priced at £72.60, so, a nearly 10% increase on the January 2024 figure. A railcard brings that down to £48.35.
Back in 2022, in the last days of the through trains, the 'With railcard' fare... was it around £33? In which case the present day fare is a 46% increase on the 2022 fare. While the connections at Salisbury are rather improved on those at the time the through trains disappeared, it still 'Won't do'™.
Oh and the Severn Beach maneuvre still applies.
While checking this, the journey I was actually after was Bath Spa to Basingstoke in a day, and the best value for that is a day return at ~£21 for a mid-day arrival.
It always surprises me how far Basingstoke is from London. Even farther now given the state of the up main east of Woking, but perhaps that's been fixed.
Mark
Re: 4,800 miles for a kebab? In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360284/30116/5] Posted by JayMac at 15:09, 8th April 2025 Already liked by Timmer | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I tend to let buses that are indicating pull away. I really don't mind trundling along behind them for a bit. Even out of town services. At most a few minutes added to my journey. I used to be a regular bus user before passing my test and always shared the druvers' frustrations at not being allowed to pull away.
Agricultural vehicles that don't take the opportunity to pull in when there's a long train of cars behind on the other hand...
London Liverpool Street Station revised planning application In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360282/30122/51] Posted by Mark A at 15:00, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Building on feedback from the public on the previous application, the scheme has returned, modified.
Mark
https://timeforliverpoolstreet.co.uk/
Re: Mum run over trying to get on bus that left early - Nottingham, 22 October 2024 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360281/30118/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 13:37, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Check offside mirror, indicate, prepare to pull away, constantly checking traffic for way to filter in, etc.
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Spare in traffic/someone flashed to let you out (thank you) and away you go.
Back in my delivery van driving days, I always tried to let any bus out: I knew from my own experience how it can be a bit of a 'mare to pull away from the curb into traffic.
Likewise, as appropriate, I'd slow down and invite an oncoming bus to turn right in front of me at a junction: my van becoming a gentle rolling road block for a few seconds for the cars behind me.

Re: A trip on GWR's Battery Electric Train - 17/12/2024 In "Thames Valley Branches" [360280/29641/13] Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:21, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
[cough] Churchward!

Re: March 27th 2pm - Better Rail for Less Congestion and New Housing: MetroWest In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360279/30027/21] Posted by Noggin at 10:02, 8th April 2025 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thank you for posting the slides Graham. Interesting slides from GWR - I hadn't realised the scale of the Brabazon development and that it included student housing. How the Henbury line won't be an electrified 15 minute service seems crazy!
Re: A trip on GWR's Battery Electric Train - 17/12/2024 In "Thames Valley Branches" [360278/29641/13] Posted by Noggin at 09:51, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
GWR press release
Special test event provides valuable insight for Great Western Railway’s fast-charge battery trial
A special test event saw 250 volunteers board Great Western Railway’s battery train to help provide valuable insight for its industry-leading trial.
The ‘High Passenger Load’ operation tested energy consumption and will form part of findings to be fed back to the Department for Transport (DfT).
A special test event saw 250 volunteers board Great Western Railway’s battery train to help provide valuable insight for its industry-leading trial.
The ‘High Passenger Load’ operation tested energy consumption and will form part of findings to be fed back to the Department for Transport (DfT).
Part of the "Project Churchill" campaign perhaps?
Re: [otd] 8th April 1982 - High Speed Train enters traffic in Australia In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [360277/30120/52] Posted by Noggin at 09:47, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thank you for the post. Hadn't known that a version of the XPT was nearly produced for Thailand but the deal fell through. I wonder if that's why they got the 158's.
Re: Ticket offices - changes afoot? In "Fare's Fair" [360276/29965/4] Posted by PhilWakely at 09:42, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The 'average customer' is only after the cheapest option and probably doesn't understand the full implications of split ticketing, particularly when combined with Advance Tickets.
Agreed, and that's only a part of the story. bradshaw travelled short to Exeter St Davids on an Exeter St Thomas ticket - perfectly allowed - then on an Exeter St Davis to Truro train that did not stop at St Thomas. I doubt that any split ticket site would offer that.
Without the full story (and only bradshaw can confirm that), but I suspect the split tickets sold by the ticket office would have been AXM-EXT and EXD-PYN, so technically not a split ticket in the accepted sense, but multiple tickets covering the journey ??
Re: Mum run over trying to get on bus that left early - Nottingham, 22 October 2024 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360275/30118/51] Posted by GBM at 09:32, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Early running can be a disciplinary offence.
Think the rules state it IS an offence, but enforcement isn't.......
Pulling away from a stop is always the difficult part.
Load passengers, wait for them to sit down; late running passengers arrive "That's lucky you're late".
(Wouldn't have been late if I'd pulled away without waiting for you).
Check nearside mirror for more passengers. Check offside mirror, indicate, prepare to pull away, constantly checking traffic for way to filter in, etc.
The driver cannot then be looking at his nearside mirror or doors for later passengers.
Spare in traffic/someone flashed to let you out (thank you) and away you go.
Sorry passengers, the driver is committed to his departure routine.
(Cue angry late passenger at departed stop waving arms and shouting about you running early, occasionally with telephone/email call to complaints about that incident).
A frequent occurrence for all drivers.
I note that it was the Dorset and Somerset Air Ambulance and not the Wilthshire and Bath one. Covering for each other?
There is a lot of co-operation between the various air ambulances as a matter of course.
The Wiltshire Air Ambulance was in Warminster a couple of days back, the pilot was saying that they had been very busy of late. He had already been from Swindon to Bristol and had managed 2 mouthfuls of his lunch when they were called out again.
When the helicopter came in I thought it was the West of England one - but the Wiltshire (& Bath !) one is now sporting a new "paint job".
The pilot kindly powered up the electronics for the internal photo.


Maidenhead to Marlow line to close!!! In "Thames Valley Branches" [360273/30121/13] Posted by Electric train at 06:39, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For 9 days 12th to 20th April 2025 for track renewal work
Buses replace trains between Maidenhead and Marlow
https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/engineering-works/marlow-12-april-20250412/
Re: Mum run over trying to get on bus that left early - Nottingham, 22 October 2024 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [360272/30118/51] Posted by grahame at 05:41, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I am astounded by the "buses are allowed to leave up to one minute early." Is this commonly allowed elsewhere? Is it publicised anywhere visible to the public, such as at a bus stop?
It's not that unusual I don't think - I have seen "bus drivers can be disciplined for leaving over a minute ahead of time" and the implication is that it IS allowed. Also to note that buses are timed at just a limited number of timing points along the way, and the times at intermediate points are estimates only. The bus stop outside our home is just a one minute run from Melksham Market Place - a timed stop - but you really need to be there a good five minutes before Melksham Market Place time and before the estimated time given on the stop.
[otd] 8th April 1982 - High Speed Train enters traffic in Australia In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [360271/30120/52] Posted by grahame at 05:30, 8th April 2025 Already liked by GBM | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
43 years ago today (8th April 1982), a High Speed Train varient entered service in New South Wales ... still running to this day, though due to be retired in the next year, two, three
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_XPT
At the time or writing, you can still travel on regular HST services in Australia, Mexico, Nigeria, Scotland and Cornwall. Their days are now numbered in Cornwall, Scotland and Australia - I don't know how long they're planned to run in Mexico and Nigeria, but clearly someone feels it's been worthwhile investing in their use there, and the Blue Pullman will be around, one might hope, for many years. I note that the Hastings Diesel (not an HST) has now operated longer in preservation than in daily service, as has Waverley. The same can be said for Brittania, and a number of other steam engines. I look forward to a nostalgic trip on the Brighton Belle, though I suspect that there's a question there as to how much it's a preserved train and how much it's Pullman carriage bodies on following-generation under frames and also with more recent traction and control equipment.
Thoughts on person being taken ill near (Trowbridge) Station In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [360270/30119/21] Posted by grahame at 05:16, 8th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From Wiltshire 999
Man airlifted to hospital after Trowbridge railway station incident
South Western Ambulance Service sent two crews to reports of a serious medical emergency at around 7.20am on Sunday (6 April).
Medics provided critical care to a man, who reportedly collapsed at the railway station.
He was stabilised before being put into the air ambulance and flown to Bristol Royal Infirmary for further treatment.
Around a dozen people stopped to watch the helicopter land and take off, many filming the sight on their mobile phones.
South Western Ambulance Service sent two crews to reports of a serious medical emergency at around 7.20am on Sunday (6 April).
Medics provided critical care to a man, who reportedly collapsed at the railway station.
He was stabilised before being put into the air ambulance and flown to Bristol Royal Infirmary for further treatment.
Around a dozen people stopped to watch the helicopter land and take off, many filming the sight on their mobile phones.
This does not "read" as a rail-specific incident to me but rather as someone being taken very ill at a railway station. There will often be lots of people around at stations, and whilst people are encourage not to travel if they are not well enough todo so, incidents WILL happen
Over time, I have seen advice more from "stop the train with the emergency chord" to "wait for the next station" and indeed I don't thing that there's a direct connection any longer from the "communication chord" to train brakes. I presume (and I'm sure someone can help me with links) that there are well tuned plans that come into play where a passenger or other person is taken ill on a train or at or near a station - and being a cluster spot, planned places for ambulances of the road or air type topics up?
I note that it was the Dorset and Somerset Air Ambulance and not the Wilthshire and Bath one. Covering for each other?
Hoping the person has come through the incident ...