| Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by Clan Line at 11:02, 15th December 2025 |     |
My grandson wishes to travel from Liverpool to Carmarthen, and back. The itineraries all seem to route him via Crewe/Stafford/Bristol - to me, a simpler, and possibly quicker, routing would appear to be via Crewe/Cardiff (Crewe to Cardiff using the mid-Wales line). He has done this trip, to Cardiff, before.
Ticket will be an off peak return + 16/17 Saver Card. Both ways on a Saturday
Can anyone offer any thoughts as to the use of the mid-Wales route as opposed to the Bristol route on this same ticket...........it would appear to be a shorter route too ! I think each leg of the route will be using a different ToC - could this affect it, or does this not apply to an OPR ticket ?
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by PhilWakely at 11:14, 15th December 2025 | |
£64.75 via Llandrindod Wells. Timings wise, there will be a big gap outward between 09:28 and 13:43
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by Mark A at 11:15, 15th December 2025 | |
To further trim the distance, is Liverpool - Chester - Shrewsbury an option too? Though, watch the connections at Chester perhaps as some aren't' good.
Mark
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by Mark A at 11:53, 15th December 2025 | |
The National Rail web site is happy to quote for... a route via Aberystwyth and then TfW's T1 bus - and also offers through fares, but not of the sort that people should buy - the site quotes Liverpool to Aberystwyth return as £44.05 but Liverpool to Carmarthen via Aberystwyth and the T1 bus as... £129.50 so possibly a prompt to explore split ticketing.
Mark
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by Oxonhutch at 12:13, 15th December 2025 | |
If it is one bus it should be capped at £3
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by rogerw at 12:48, 15th December 2025 | |
Route Hereford £64,75. Changing at Crewe in each direction. There are through trains from Crewe to Carmathan every 2 Hours
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by Mark A at 14:39, 15th December 2025 | |
If it is one bus it should be capped at £3
Looks as if TfW's fares cap is currently at £4 (with exceptions, one of which is for the 'T1C' service...).
Mark
https://traws.cymru/en/changes-fares-selected-services
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by ChrisB at 16:20, 15th December 2025 | |
My grandson wishes to travel from Liverpool to Carmarthen, and back. The itineraries all seem to route him via Crewe/Stafford/Bristol -
Because the planners are programmed to provide the quickest journeys via valid routings....If you want the 'shortest'/fewest changes/different parameters, you need to specify - using the 'via' tool
| Re: Liverpool to Carmarthen - help needed............. Posted by Trowres at 17:43, 15th December 2025 | |
The £64.75 fare is from "Liverpool Stations".
In spite of this, the National Rail Journey Planner cannot seem to cope with the return destination in Liverpool being different from the Origin (e.g. Lime Street vs. Central). It merely says:
We have been unable to find a valid fare. Please re-plan your journey
Note: the £64.75 Saver fare carries the 8A restriction - meaning that it is not restricted by time of use, on any day of the week. However, break of journey is not allowed (until recently was allowed on return journey, but no longer?...)
