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Posted by grahame at 19:43, 16th November 2018
 
From West Palm Beach TV  (my usual Friday evening channel - NOT) at https://www.wptv.com/news/state/brightline-virgin-form-strategic-partnership

Brightline, Virgin form strategic partnership; Brightline will be called Virgin Trains USA

Brightline has announced that it has formed a strategic partnership and trademark licensing agreement with the Virgin Group.

It says the agreement will establish a new brand and will rename itself Virgin Trains USA this month.

Virgin will make a minority investment in Brightline, which will still be managed and operated by Brightline’s executive team as well as affiliates of Fortress Investment Group, the rail service said.

“Virgin has built a respected and trusted brand in travel and hospitality.  With our shared focus on customer experience, powered by a culture of innovation and disruption, we are well positioned to build on our success," Brightline Chairman Wes Edens said in a statement.

Brightline is operating in Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade counties and has been considering a stop on the Treasure Coast.

It also has plans to expand into Orlando and Tampa.

USA - railways and incidents (merged posts)
Posted by grahame at 21:39, 18th February 2020
 
From the Daily Mail

POMPANO BEACH, Fla. (AP) - One person died Tuesday morning when a car was hit by a high speed train in South Florida, officials said.

The Brightline train, which operates between Miami and West Palm Beach, struck the car at an intersection in Pompano Beach about 10:12 a.m. Tuesday, said sheriff's spokeswoman Gerdy St. Louis. One person was confirmed dead.

Witnesses to the crash said the vehicle went around the guard rails, a Brightline spokesman told The Associated Press.

More than 40 people have been killed by the train, which travels at speeds up to 79 mph (127 kph) through some of Florida's most densely populated cities, according to records. An analysis of data by The Associated Press in December found the death rate is about one for every 29,000 miles (47,000 kilometers) the trains have traveled, which is the worst per-mile death rate of the nation's 821 railroads.

A sobering statistic ... has me wondering what the UK figure is.  Noting the figure quoted relates to all deaths and not just passenger deaths which are minuscule in the overall total.

Re: USA / Railroad death rate
Posted by eightf48544 at 10:37, 19th February 2020
 
Does it include staff deaths?

Re: USA / Railroad death rate
Posted by TonyK at 11:01, 20th February 2020
 
I've had a look at ORR's statistics for 2018-19. From these, we see that:
  • the total number of kilometres travelled by trains (national rail network and London Underground) was 150,500,000. This represented 142m Km passenger and 8.5m Km freight.
  • the total number of fatalities was 331. This represented 2 workforce, 17 passengers (13 national rail, 4 London Underground, none as a result of an accident on a train as a passenger), 10 accidents to other members of the public and 302 suicides or apparent suicides.

To give the UK equivalent of the Florida statistic, there is one fatality on average every 454,683 Km (282,527 miles) travelled by a train. Taking suicides from the calculation, there is one death every 5,189,655 Km (3,224,702 miles). That makes the incidence around a tenth of the Florida number if suicides are included or less than one percent if they are not.

2018/19 was the 12th successive year without a single fatality of a passenger on a train on the national rail network or London Underground, the last being the Pendolino accident at Grayrigg.

The USA votes...
Posted by Red Squirrel at 09:47, 5th November 2020
 
...but they didn't only vote for which old white man was going to try to run the country for the next few years!

It's a feature of US elections that people also get to vote on a raft of other things too. Last night:

Austin, Texas voted for a USD7.5 billion property tax plan, including new light rail lines a downtown tunnel, BRT, and park and rides.

Denver, Colorado voted for 1/4-cent 'climate change' sales tax to fund climate-focused initiatives, including potential transit investments.

Fairfax, Virginia voted for $160 m in bonds to support local funding for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority - the DC metro.

Re: The USA votes...
Posted by grahame at 10:55, 5th November 2020
 
Denver, Colorado voted for 1/4-cent 'climate change' sales tax to fund climate-focused initiatives, including potential transit investments.

However ...
To reduce the burden of the tax, the measure would not apply to purchases of food, water, fuel, medical supplies and feminine hygiene products.
... which strikes me as something of a mixed message ...

Re: The USA votes...
Posted by ellendune at 22:21, 5th November 2020
 
Meanwhile over here local authorities cannot even raise the one tax central government allow them to levy by more than a small percentage and must rely on ever decreasing grants from central government. 

What a very different world. 

Re: The USA votes...
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 23:08, 5th November 2020
 
Trump. 215
Byden . 254
Intercity. 125.

Re: The USA votes...
Posted by grahame at 12:57, 8th November 2020
 
Biden now over the line ... and it would appear by sufficient a margin to stand up to any unorthodox challenges. With a partner who's an immigrant to the UK from the USA, but retains ties, we have been following the long and complex process that's been going on with more than a degree or two of interest; American politics has become very ugly indeed.  But we are a public transport forum, so little of that from me here.

But ... from an article that's six months old ...  did you know the Joe Biden's nickname is "Amtrak Joe"

[Amtrak] has been his primary mode of transportation to his work as a politician in Washington, D.C. and back home to Delaware, where he and his current wife reside. It started because of tragedy, but over time he became a huge proponent of trains during his time as a senator and subsequently vice president. It's become an indelible part of his life and work. So how did Joe become "Amtrak Joe," and why is it so significant to understanding who he is?

and ...

Biden's apparently traveled over 2 million miles, the equivalent of four years of his life, on Amtrak. He's a huge advocate for rail travel, facilitating over $2 billion loan in 2016 to help them update trains and stations. He even blogged to Huffington Post about why America needs trains. In it, he talk about the importance of Amtrak to his life. "It has provided me another family entirely?a community of dedicated professionals who have shared the milestones in my life, and who have allowed me to share the milestones in theirs."

Joe Biden has had more tragedy and misfortune thrown at him than most of us could even imagine, and for sure that has been significant in shaping the man.   Elements of our press suggest that Trump rather than Biden would have been best for the UK, bearing in mind similarities in outlook between the UK and USA leaders, whereas the new team in Washington finds itself closer to the Eurpoean systems (and thus Europe) and does not consider our decision to leave Europe to have been a good one.   But having noted that ... his approach and direction seems so much better aligned with sustainable transport and climate objectives than the chap who's finishing his four years, and his henchmen.

Re: The USA votes...
Posted by JontyMort at 18:51, 8th November 2020
 
Biden now over the line ...

But did you know the Joe Biden's nickname is "Amtrak Joe"
 

Yes, I did. During the course of my research for a trip to the US next September (originally this September) I came across this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_ACS-64#/media/File:Cities_Sprinter_cab.jpg

To be fair, therefore, his green credentials are not bad at all by US standards. Amtrak will probably be well pleased at his election.

Re: The USA votes...
Posted by JontyMort at 21:55, 8th November 2020
 
Biden now over the line ...

But did you know the Joe Biden's nickname is "Amtrak Joe"
 

Yes, I did. During the course of my research for a trip to the US next September (originally this September) I came across this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_ACS-64#/media/File:Cities_Sprinter_cab.jpg

To be fair, therefore, his green credentials are not bad at all by US standards. Amtrak will probably be well pleased at his election.

Actually those ACS-64s look pretty competent machines. That said, they need to re-equip the North East Corridor with coaching stock that will work in push-pull mode. The locomotives will, but they don?t have stock with Driving Van Trailers.

Huge fire after truck and train collide, Texas USA.
Posted by broadgage at 20:05, 4th March 2021
 
Reports state and video shows huge fire after collision, rail tank wagon was carrying petrol.
No serious injuries reported.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56117353

Edited to correct link.

Re: Huge fire after truck and train collide, Texas USA.
Posted by ChrisB at 20:10, 4th March 2021
 
Have you used the correct URL there - that's a truck sliding off a road and no fire?

Re: Huge fire after truck and train collide, Texas USA.
Posted by broadgage at 20:39, 4th March 2021
 
Have you used the correct URL there - that's a truck sliding off a road and no fire?

No it was the wrong link, about an unrelated incident.
Now corrected. Sorry to spread confusion.

"A once in a generation investment in America's railroads"
Posted by Bmblbzzz at 01:38, 5th March 2021
 
The train rumbles through the darkness along Pennsylvania’s southern edge before curving north towards Pittsburgh. It’s the middle of the night, and the sleeper cabins are lulled by the low hum of the engine and a rhythmic click-clacking from the tracks below.

These pleasant noises are interrupted every now and then by the blast of the train’s horn and the clanging bells of a crossing guard as we barrel through one small town after another. Their street lights flicker through the cabins for a moment before the darkness and the low hum returns.

Long-distance rail travel in America today is for romantics. Taking this old train between Washington DC and Chicago isn’t the fastest, the cheapest, or even the most comfortable way to get between the two cities. To travel this way, you have to love these sounds, or at least have plenty of time to kill.

Pete Buttigieg, the new transport secretary, is one of those romantics. But he has nonetheless expressed a desire to drag this country’s rail system into the 21st century. Americans, he says, “have been asked to settle for less” when it comes to rail travel. He advocates massive investment to build high-speed rail and upgrade existing regional lines, and he has the full support of ‘Amtrak Joe’ Biden, perhaps the most train-friendly president in US history.
Continues... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/pete-buttigieg-south-bend-amtrak-transport-b1812129.html

Re: Huge fire after truck and train collide, Texas USA.
Posted by grahame at 09:20, 8th March 2021
 
From the Web Socialist Web Site - stats on USA train safety triggered (earlier in the article, not quoted) by two more incidents.

According to the US Department of Transportation’s Federal Railroad Administration, there were 21,061 accidents involving BNSF between 1996—when BNSF was established by the merging of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway and Burlington Northern Railroad—and 2020.

Over the last 25 years, BNSF has been involved in 3,102 fatalities, including 82 employee-on-duty deaths, and 25,031 other injuries, involving a staggering 15,903 employees.

When all other American rail companies are included, the total number of accidents jumps to 126,420 between 1996 and 2020, with 21,148 fatalities and 236,329 injuries, including 492 employee deaths and 136,464 employee injuries.

The number of accidents, fatalities, and injuries in the US compared to the total amount of rail miles traveled exceeds those of most other highly industrialized nations. While there undoubtedly are several factors that have led to this carnage, a determining cause has been the deregulation of the rail industry coupled with a lack of extensive rail modernization and investment in safety protocols.

Big country, higher numbers expected that in smaller ones ... but even taking that into account, the figures are really bad

Re: Huge fire after truck and train collide, Texas USA.
Posted by eightonedee at 18:57, 8th March 2021
 
At the risk of showing a ghoulish interest in the figures in this article, they beg a number of questions.

The most striking is the number of non-employee fatalities - of the 3,102 fatalities in 25 years for this company 3020 are non-employees, and of the 21,148 fatalities on the US rail system 20,656 were non-employees. What is happening? It does not seem to be primarily an employment issue (although the number of employee victims at about 20 a year for the whole US is not good - the UK seems to be about 2 to 3 a year on average).

From the ORR website, sadly suicides are the largest proportion of deaths on the UK rail system, at between 200-300 a year. This is a terrible toll, not only for the families of the deceased but the employees and emergency services involved in the incidents and their aftermaths. Does this though account for the lion's share of the US figures too?

A visit to the following web address - https://www.bts.gov/content/transportation-fatalities-mode indicates that most fatalities are crossing deaths (showing a reduction form about 500 a year to 2-300 later on, but with the improvement stalled in recent years) and trespassers (a steady 400-500 a year).

This doesn't quite fit the WSWS agenda, does it?

Re: Huge fire after truck and train collide, Texas USA.
Posted by stuving at 20:19, 8th March 2021
 
The BTS refer to the FRA (http://safetydata.fra.dot.gov/OfficeofSafety/) for more detail, but I'm struggling to get much sense out of there. It's as bad as the Belgian State Archives, which I was grappling with earlier today (though at least it's all in one language). The closest I can find is a database query that gives detailed tables, but only per year rather than aggregated. But certainly the numbers are dominated by grade crossings and trespassers/suicides, outweighing employees by about 100:1.

Re: Huge fire after truck and train collide, Texas USA.
Posted by Bmblbzzz at 22:19, 8th March 2021
 
Just speculating really, but might the American statistics be as much a road safety problem as a rail safety one? Certainly Youtube is full of videos (some cautionary, some dramatic, some ghoulish) of cars and trucks crashing into trains on American crossings. While some of them might be due to faulty signals and/or barriers, a lot of them show drivers ignoring the signals. American driving tests in many states are rather undemanding by UK or European standards and their HGVs in particular are designed in a way that doesn't facilitate vision. Plus, the way in which US trains mostly go over crossings very slowly, blowing their horns, might lull road users into a false sense of security when it comes to the few trains which go faster – as well as for those which are going slowly (because "look, it's so slow, even though the barriers are down there's still time to cross..."). And the lack of fencing might be a factor when it comes to trespassers.

Freight train derailment in Iowa, USA.
Posted by broadgage at 15:05, 17th May 2021
 
BBC report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-57145192

No injuries reported, perhaps surprisingly in view of the scale of destruction.
There is a risk of explosion as some of the cargo was fertiliser, people nearby evacuated.

Re: Freight train derailment in Iowa, USA.
Posted by stuving at 16:15, 17th May 2021
 
Well, the USA has a huge freight railway network, and a lot of it is pretty rough. Derailments are common, as are loads of hazardous materials. This one was only yesterday:
About 28 train cars derailed Saturday afternoon along a rail line in Albert Lea, Minn., with cleanup efforts continuing Sunday.

A Union Pacific Railroad spokesperson Saturday that said the train “was carrying mixed commodities; however, we have confirmed two of the derailed cars are leaking hydrochloric acid. Union Pacific is working with emergency responders to determine a response plan.”

After initially issuing a shelter-in-place order for nearby residents as the scene was assessed, authorities later said there was no danger to the public. There were no injuries.

Re: Freight train derailment in Iowa, USA.
Posted by CyclingSid at 07:46, 18th May 2021
 
On North America I think of the Mississauga Miracle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Mississauga_train_derailment
Amazingly no deaths.

"Americans don't understand passenger trains"
Posted by grahame at 08:32, 23rd May 2021
 
From YouTube - with an interesting comment that Americans love trains when they come to Europe, but have so few of them that when it comes to local votes they don't know enough about them to vote for appropriate rail projects.


Re: "Americans don't understand passenger trains"
Posted by Lee at 10:49, 23rd May 2021
 
From YouTube - with an interesting comment that Americans love trains when they come to Europe, but have so few of them that when it comes to local votes they don't know enough about them to vote for appropriate rail projects.



it is interesting...I remember my fondness for the French way of life being fed when I started visiting as a young man and travelling on a public transport system that joined together so much better than back in the UK, and already had ultra-modern to us but well-established to them elements such as high-speed rail that we could only dream of back then, and still only have largely as a link to their system even now. Now that I live in France and work in that public transport system, it only makes me appreciate it even more.

By contrast, Americans visiting the UK probably think that locals are living in a real-life version of one of those "quaint" classic British comedies, somewhere between The Titfield Thunderbolt and Oh, Doctor Beeching!...

Re: "Americans don't understand passenger trains"
Posted by Electric train at 06:59, 24th May 2021
 
You have to think of the scale of the country and the fragmented federal system where each state has so much autonomy that investing in 200 mph high speed national rail is almost impossible.

A few years ago I was travelling on a train from Venice to Rome with a group that included a few Americans, they though that the 80 / 100 kph was fast as we travelled away from Venice when the train got on the the high speed line and was running over 300 kph their expression was wow

Re: "Americans don't understand passenger trains"
Posted by broadgage at 12:40, 24th May 2021
 
I met an American family who felt that 25MPH on the West Somerset Railway was "too fast" for a "museum line" They seemed rather shocked when I told them that very similar rolling stock was still used at several times that speed on the main line.

The risk of colliding with another train distressed them and they seemed unconvinced by my explanations regarding interlocked signals making this almost impossible.
They seemed convinced that where two trains cross at a station with two platforms, that only the timetable prevented accidents on the adjacent single line.
I got the impression that most preserved lines in the USA have no signaling and are worked with only a single train.

Re: "Americans don't understand passenger trains"
Posted by grahame at 18:08, 24th May 2021
 
I met an American family who felt that 25MPH on the West Somerset Railway was "too fast" for a "museum line" They seemed rather shocked when I told them that very similar rolling stock was still used at several times that speed on the main line.

I hope you re-assured them that their train was only running as far as Bishops Lydeard, and not onto the section from there into Taunton where there have been three accidents with significant loss of life.   Thank goodness lessons were learned in each case, and the close proximity of all three accidents was purely co-incidental.

Eight killed in San Jose, California rail yard shooting - 26 May 2021
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:36, 26th May 2021
 
From the BBC:

San Jose shooting: Eight killed in California rail yard shooting



A gunman has killed eight people at a commuter train yard in California, police say.

The shooting took place at the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority rail yard in San Jose on Wednesday.

Officials say the victims include transit employees and the suspect, a former employee, is also dead.

The shooting broke out at 06:45 local time (14:45GMT), transit officials say. Authorities say they are checking the scene for explosive devices.

San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo told reporters "this is a horrific day for our city. My attention will turn to ensuring this never happens again to our city."

He added that one person succumbed to their injuries while being transported to hospital.

A local CBS station reports that the shots broke out during an employee meeting for rail workers. Just before the shooting, a fire broke out at a home belonging to a Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority (VTA) employee, CBS reports.

According to the LA Times, the suspect may have set his home on fire before embarking on the rampage, which authorities are looking into but have not confirmed. The suspect's age was not provided by authorities.

The shooting shut down traffic on nearby streets during the morning commute. Trains will halt service at noon local time.

Authorities said that a bomb squad is at the scene and searching for explosive devices but that there is no active threat to the public. They would not specify how many explosive devices had been found.

San Jose Sherriff's Deputy Russell Davis emphasised that the investigation was active and ongoing. Authorities will give another update at 13:30 local time (21:30GMT).

Railway president Glenn Hendricks told reporters that the attack "'happened on the yard but it did not happen in the operations control centre".

California Governor Gavin Newsom tweeted: "We are in close contact with local law enforcement and monitoring this situation closely."

Federal agents, including the FBI, are assisting in the investigation. Mayor Liccardo said he has spoken on the phone with Vice-president Kamala Harris - a Californian herself - and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.

Across the US, there have been 230 mass shootings so far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

A mass shooting is defined by the group as a crime in which four or more people are fatally shot.

The Santa Clara VTA operates three train lines, making up over 40 miles (65km) of rail. They also operate about 70 bus lines in the city.


Fire fighting from a train, USA.
Posted by broadgage at 02:12, 22nd July 2021
 
A forest fire being fought from atop a slowly moving train. A train of tank wagons can carry a vast amount of water if compared to aircraft or land vehicles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-57922181

Re: Fire fighting from a train, USA.
Posted by broadgage at 22:23, 15th August 2021

Re: Fire fighting from a train, USA.
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:33, 16th August 2021
 
A forest fire being fought from atop a slowly moving train. A train of tank wagons can carry a vast amount of water if compared to aircraft or land vehicles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-57922181

......could be another use for your sleeper shower carriages if they carry enough water Broadgage? 

"worst ever" floods hit New York.
Posted by broadgage at 11:03, 2nd September 2021
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTWuKt2mI3I

Metro largely closed, which is not surprising looking at above video.
At least 9 lives lost, though this is due to the flooding in general, not metro related.

"Three dead" in derailment, Montana, USA.
Posted by broadgage at 11:04, 26th September 2021
 
Various reports state, that the "Empire builder", a prestigious long distance train has derailed with the loss of three lives and dozens injured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58696143

USA level crossing collision
Posted by infoman at 06:10, 10th January 2022
 
Sky news are showing footage of a person being pulled from a light plane that made, I presume, an emergency landing on a road/level crossing area.

Person rescued just before a train smashed into the plane that had ended up on the railway level crossing.

Re: USA level crossing collision
Posted by Bmblbzzz at 09:52, 10th January 2022
 
I was going to say, level crossing collisions are ten a penny in the USA – I read recently there's one every four hours – but a level crossing collision involving a plane is a bit unusual!

Re: USA level crossing collision
Posted by broadgage at 22:33, 10th January 2022
 
Dramatic video of this was shown on BBC TV news at about 22-25 this evening.
The pilot was dragged clear with only about one second to spare, the plane was damaged by the forced landing, and then totally destroyed by the train.

Pilot injured but no other injuries reported.

Re: USA level crossing collision
Posted by JayMac at 00:09, 11th January 2022
 
Link to the police bodycam video on the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59946362

Also, Air Traffic Control communication during the incident:



There's also video circulating from an eyewitness. A very lucky eyewitness, who narrowly avoided serious injury from flying debris, following the collision between train and Cessna.


Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by broadgage at 06:29, 29th January 2022
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60177979

Looks rather alarming ! And also far from efficient as most of the heat looks to be wasted in large luminous gas flames that heat the sky.
The light output looks distracting to the train driver at night.
Possibly a fire risk to any train that stops with flames underneath. Risk of igniting waste paper or leaves caught on the underframe ? Damage to rubber hoses or plastic insulated wires ?

We used to use gas heating of points in the UK, and few installations may remain in use. These however used non luminous blue flames, carefully directed to the parts needing heating.
Generally burning propane, but mains gas was used in a few places including Waterloo station.

Electric heating of points is now the norm.

Re: Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by JayMac at 07:16, 29th January 2022
 
This type of switch heating has been used for decades in cold climates. Inefficiency, rather than safety, is the main reason why it's becoming less common. If it weren't safe it wouldn't be used. This type of switch heating is always monitored locally by a human.

There's an alternative method that also uses propane. Gas is burned in a chamber next to the rails and a high pressure hot air blower feeds  it to the switch through ducts and nozzles. These forced air systems can be controlled remotely or by temperature/precipitation sensors.

Re: Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by Electric train at 07:37, 29th January 2022
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60177979

Looks rather alarming ! And also far from efficient as most of the heat looks to be wasted in large luminous gas flames that heat the sky.
The light output looks distracting to the train driver at night.
Possibly a fire risk to any train that stops with flames underneath. Risk of igniting waste paper or leaves caught on the underframe ? Damage to rubber hoses or plastic insulated wires ?

We used to use gas heating of points in the UK, and few installations may remain in use. These however used non luminous blue flames, carefully directed to the parts needing heating.
Generally burning propane, but mains gas was used in a few places including Waterloo station.

Electric heating of points is now the norm.


There are according to a recent NR internal meeting I recently attended there are less than 5 sites on the National network operating on gas all LPG.

Electric point heating on the UK National network has quite a clever control system, which has been in use for around for 30 years.   There 'hot' and 'cold' rail temperature sensors which work in conjunction with a humidly sensor and some locations a blown snow sensor.  Most installations have remote monitoring which detect if one on the heater strips has failed and report it back to the Route 'flight engineers'

Re: Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by grahame at 08:00, 29th January 2022
 
There are according to a recent NR internal meeting I recently attended there are less than 5 sites on the National network operating on gas all LPG.

Electric point heating on the UK National network has quite a clever control system, which has been in use for around for 30 years.   There 'hot' and 'cold' rail temperature sensors which work in conjunction with a humidly sensor and some locations a blown snow sensor.  Most installations have remote monitoring which detect if one on the heater strips has failed and report it back to the Route 'flight engineers'

That is very interesting, thank you.  Not asking you to name the 4 ( ?  ) sites - but can you comment on Bradford Junction, where the line towards Swindon has on occasions been put out of use in inclement weather when (it seems) all the other junctions up and down the line remain in service?

Re: Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by Electric train at 07:50, 30th January 2022
 
There are according to a recent NR internal meeting I recently attended there are less than 5 sites on the National network operating on gas all LPG.

Electric point heating on the UK National network has quite a clever control system, which has been in use for around for 30 years.   There 'hot' and 'cold' rail temperature sensors which work in conjunction with a humidly sensor and some locations a blown snow sensor.  Most installations have remote monitoring which detect if one on the heater strips has failed and report it back to the Route 'flight engineers'

That is very interesting, thank you.  Not asking you to name the 4 ( ?  ) sites - but can you comment on Bradford Junction, where the line towards Swindon has on occasions been put out of use in inclement weather when (it seems) all the other junctions up and down the line remain in service?

Bradford Jcn is not on the list of gas heated points.   There may be operational reasons elsewhere along the line that cause a problem, perhaps a turn back siding that does not have point heating

Re: Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by paul7575 at 14:58, 30th January 2022
 
I can’t help feeling that the BBC probably ran the story on the basis of implying that Network Rail give up when it gets cold.

They probably never considered the possibility we’d moved on from that type of heating many years ago…

Re: Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by broadgage at 07:01, 31st January 2022
 
Did we EVER use the type of gas points heating pictured in the O/P ?
I certainly recall gas heated points but these used non luminous blue flames, invisible in daylight and barely visible after dark.

Usually propane burning, the metal mesh cages each containing four large propane cylinders were once a familiar sight beside the track. These propane cylinders had many other other uses and theft was a recurring problem.
Also if fire broke out from some unrelated cause there was a risk of explosions.

A few large installations used mains gas, including the approach to Waterloo station.

Re: Gas heating of points, Chicago, USA.
Posted by Electric train at 21:46, 31st January 2022
 
Did we EVER use the type of gas points heating pictured in the O/P ?
I certainly recall gas heated points but these used non luminous blue flames, invisible in daylight and barely visible after dark.

Usually propane burning, the metal mesh cages each containing four large propane cylinders were once a familiar sight beside the track. These propane cylinders had many other other uses and theft was a recurring problem.
Also if fire broke out from some unrelated cause there was a risk of explosions.

A few large installations used mains gas, including the approach to Waterloo station.

There was a mix of mains gas and propane.  Paddington was all mains gas, it was not uncommon to see flames licking out of the ballast due to PVC pipes having holes and cracks.  The gas being lit by the sparks from the brake blocks.

The problem with gas heaters is the burners can get blown out by passing trains, PW staff could often be seen patrolling an area with a small propane bottle and gas torch to relight the burners.


On the Southern they also have conrail heaters.  The heating strips being powered by the 750V.   They are place at certain signals and platforms and are between 50m and 100m long 

14th May 2022 - National (USA) train day - USA
Posted by grahame at 08:57, 10th February 2022
 
National (USA) train day - USA

https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/train-day/

But do look out for one or two events in Wiltshire, co-incidentally, being planned for the same day!


Overnight homeless on the Subway - New York
Posted by grahame at 21:28, 18th February 2022
 
From The Guardian

New York City will begin removing homeless people from subways at night

Mayor says public fear of subways is driving riders from the system and announces more mental health support to homeless

A much most substantial issue than fare evasion - a symptom and it sounds from the rest of the article rather that they're treating the symptom much more that the issue itself, in spite of what the little bit I quoted says.

We do have a rural homeless population, and one in towns and smaller cities here about, and the variety of cases as I understand it is that some are by choice, some are not, and some can't manage their choice.  I do hope the handful of people who were on the street in Bath last night had some option of shelter before it turned really nasty.  And then we have a substantial number of "sofa surfers" ...


Re: Overnight homeless on the Subway - New York
Posted by grahame at 22:07, 18th February 2022
 
Or as the Daily Mail puts it

New York leaders pledged Friday to clear homeless people from the city's subway following a spike in violence on the underground transit system since the start of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Mayor Eric Adams said he was instructing police officers and social workers to remove anyone sheltering inside train cars and on station platforms.

"The system was not made to be housing, it's made to be transportation," Adams, 61, told reporters.

Homeless people sought refuge in the subway system after shelters closed at the height of the pandemic in spring 2020 and as workers stopped commuting to offices.

Adams said police officers would work with outreach workers who would help take homeless people to shelters or towards hospital help if they appear mentally ill.

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Re: Overnight homeless on the Subway - New York
Posted by Celestial at 22:53, 18th February 2022
 
Or as the Daily Mail puts it

New York leaders pledged Friday to clear homeless people from the city's subway following a spike in violence on the underground transit system since the start of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Mayor Eric Adams said he was instructing police officers and social workers to remove anyone sheltering inside train cars and on station platforms.

"The system was not made to be housing, it's made to be transportation," Adams, 61, told reporters.

Homeless people sought refuge in the subway system after shelters closed at the height of the pandemic in spring 2020 and as workers stopped commuting to offices.

Adams said police officers would work with outreach workers who would help take homeless people to shelters or towards hospital help if they appear mentally ill.

Article continues.  Also offers links if any of the following is of interest:

Here Is What Full Mouth Dental Implants Should Cost You in Frome
How Much Does It Cost To Hire A 24-Hour Live-In Carer in Frome?
The Cost Of Hair Transplant In Frome Might Surprise You
Single over 50 in Frome? See who's on Ourtime!
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How much will it cost to replace your roof in 2022?
Bowels: A Simple Trick To Empty Them Completely


I do hope those adverts weren't personally targeted at you Grahame.

Re: Overnight homeless on the Subway - New York
Posted by grahame at 08:16, 19th February 2022
 
Article continues.  Also offers links if any of the following is of interest:

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The Cost Of Hair Transplant In Frome Might Surprise You
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How much will it cost to replace your roof in 2022?
Bowels: A Simple Trick To Empty Them Completely

I do hope those adverts weren't personally targeted at you Grahame.

If targeted, it was poor, I can assure you.   I have just been out to check on damage from Storm Eunice, and can report just a few twigs down. We had repairs to a roof last year - not a full replacement, but that could be relevant in a decade or so.

Re: Overnight homeless on the Subway - New York
Posted by broadgage at 11:57, 19th February 2022
 
I get very similar adverts, but with a different location.

"Three dead" in train derailment, Missouri, USA 27/06/2022.
Posted by broadgage at 01:17, 28th June 2022
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61958813

Reported as being due to collision with a truck on a level crossing.
Dramatic images from the scene show the location as being rather remote but in flat open farmland, relatively benign conditions without large trees, substantial buildings, bridges, or embankments.
About 50 reported injuries, and many of the uninjured being accommodated in a school.

Very sad.

USA National Rail Strike
Posted by grahame at 04:30, 16th September 2022
 
From the BBC

US freight rail companies and unions representing their workers have reached a "tentative agreement" to avert the first national rail strike in 30 years.

The deal follows months of back and forth negotiations and 20 hours of overnight talks on working conditions.

Reading and hearing about these potential strikes, the threat of them comes across as utterly understandable when you read what the main "grouch" was/is.     I'm also struck by what appears to be a strike threat has resulted in further negotiations to avert the strikes and to avoid an actual shutdown - is there a lesson there for folks in the UK to learn from and follow?

Re: USA National Rail Strike
Posted by Electric train at 07:10, 16th September 2022
 
From the BBC

US freight rail companies and unions representing their workers have reached a "tentative agreement" to avert the first national rail strike in 30 years.

The deal follows months of back and forth negotiations and 20 hours of overnight talks on working conditions.

Reading and hearing about these potential strikes, the threat of them comes across as utterly understandable when you read what the main "grouch" was/is.     I'm also struck by what appears to be a strike threat has resulted in further negotiations to avert the strikes and to avoid an actual shutdown - is there a lesson there for folks in the UK to learn from and follow?


The USA railways are freight centric.   The US economy is dependent on the movement of freight by rail hence the US railroad unions have a lot more economic power.  A USA railroad strike would also have a major impact on us in the UK, a lot of Europe - Asia container traffic is transhipped across USA / Canada.

Also looks like there has been no US Government interference in the negotiations

Fortunately, in the UK we do not have the same employment laws as the USA, although I suspect the Government want to move in that direction.

Amtrak passengers stranded for 29 hours feared they had been kidnapped
Posted by ChrisB at 17:39, 12th January 2023
 
From The Grauniad

Some passengers called 911 fearing they were being held hostage, prompting conductor to announce ‘we’re not holding you hostage’

Hundreds of Amtrak passengers in South Carolina were stranded on a train for more than a day, prompting several to call the police out of fear they were being held hostage.

The train, which departed from Washington DC, was delayed for more than 29 hours after being rerouted due to a derailed CSX freight train, reported ABC News.

Panicked passengers fearing a more serious situation eventually began dialling 911, prompting the conductor to announce, “For those of you that are calling the police, we are not holding you hostage.”.

The autotrain, which allows passengers to travel with their vehicles, was set to arrive in Sanford, Florida, at about 10am on Tuesday. But after a scheduled stop in Lorton, Virginia, at 5.30pm on Monday, it halted in a wooded area in Denmark, South Carolina, an hour outside of Columbia.

After a long wait, the employees “timed out”, meaning they could not legally operate the train, and had to wait for a new crew to arrive. The train had limited food supplies and multiple pets in need of a bathroom break, reported the Washington Post.

The major delays caused several people onboard the train to panic and call 911. Frustrated staff asked them to stop.

“For those of you that are calling the police, we are not holding you hostage,” said one conductor in a recorded video of the announcement. “We are giving you all the information which we have. We are sorry about the inconvenience.”

The conductor also reminded passengers not to open their windows to smoke.

Throughout the ordeal, several trapped passengers took to social media to air their frustrations.

“Any help heading towards the fully booked Amtrak auto train full of elderly passengers that is now almost 10 hours past arrival time? No food, no access to medical care, crew has disembarked, no replacement. Stuck in SC,” wrote one Twitter user, who also tagged the US transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg.

An Amtrak spokesperson, Christina Leeds, stated the delays were caused by the derailed freight train and that Amtrak had “[provided] regular updates to customers, along with meals, snack packs and beverages”.

The train, which carried 563 passengers and 333 vehicles, finally reached its destination on Wednesday morning.

Amtrak service has been increasingly affected by delays, cancellations and other travel chaos.

In June 2022, over 25% of Amtrak customers experienced delays. Cancellations, while rare, also increased during the summer, reported the Washington Post. More recently, inclement weather through the midwestern region in December caused major delays. In Chicago, several trains were delayed by a winter storm.

Re: Amtrak passengers stranded for 29 hours feared they had been kidnapped
Posted by Electric train at 17:55, 12th January 2023
 
From The Grauniad

Some passengers called 911 fearing they were being held hostage, prompting conductor to announce ‘we’re not holding you hostage’

Hundreds of Amtrak passengers in South Carolina were stranded on a train for more than a day, prompting several to call the police out of fear they were being held hostage.

The train, which departed from Washington DC, was delayed for more than 29 hours after being rerouted due to a derailed CSX freight train, reported ABC News.

Panicked passengers fearing a more serious situation eventually began dialling 911, prompting the conductor to announce, “For those of you that are calling the police, we are not holding you hostage.”.

The autotrain, which allows passengers to travel with their vehicles, was set to arrive in Sanford, Florida, at about 10am on Tuesday. But after a scheduled stop in Lorton, Virginia, at 5.30pm on Monday, it halted in a wooded area in Denmark, South Carolina, an hour outside of Columbia.

After a long wait, the employees “timed out”, meaning they could not legally operate the train, and had to wait for a new crew to arrive. The train had limited food supplies and multiple pets in need of a bathroom break, reported the Washington Post.

The major delays caused several people onboard the train to panic and call 911. Frustrated staff asked them to stop.

“For those of you that are calling the police, we are not holding you hostage,” said one conductor in a recorded video of the announcement. “We are giving you all the information which we have. We are sorry about the inconvenience.”

The conductor also reminded passengers not to open their windows to smoke.

Throughout the ordeal, several trapped passengers took to social media to air their frustrations.

“Any help heading towards the fully booked Amtrak auto train full of elderly passengers that is now almost 10 hours past arrival time? No food, no access to medical care, crew has disembarked, no replacement. Stuck in SC,” wrote one Twitter user, who also tagged the US transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg.

An Amtrak spokesperson, Christina Leeds, stated the delays were caused by the derailed freight train and that Amtrak had “[provided] regular updates to customers, along with meals, snack packs and beverages”.

The train, which carried 563 passengers and 333 vehicles, finally reached its destination on Wednesday morning.

Amtrak service has been increasingly affected by delays, cancellations and other travel chaos.

In June 2022, over 25% of Amtrak customers experienced delays. Cancellations, while rare, also increased during the summer, reported the Washington Post. More recently, inclement weather through the midwestern region in December caused major delays. In Chicago, several trains were delayed by a winter storm.

And we get grumpy with a 29 minute delay

Re: Amtrak passengers stranded for 29 hours feared they had been kidnapped
Posted by Bmblbzzz at 19:37, 12th January 2023
 
Off topic, but:
The train had limited food supplies and multiple pets in need of a bathroom break, reported the Washington Post.
I presume "pets in need of a bathroom break" has been lifted verbatim from the WaPo. Of course if the pets literally needed a bathroom, there are bathrooms on the train.

Slightly more on topic: I recall from books and movies that American passenger trains used to carry a set of portable steps that the conductor could use to let passengers off the train if, for some reason, it stopped other than at a platform. For instance, if it overshot a request stop. I don't know if that's still the case but if it were, maybe the pets (and their owners) could use it.

Re: Amtrak passengers stranded for 29 hours feared they had been kidnapped
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 11:31, 13th January 2023
 
Off topic, but:
The train had limited food supplies and multiple pets in need of a bathroom break, reported the Washington Post.
I presume "pets in need of a bathroom break" has been lifted verbatim from the WaPo. Of course if the pets literally needed a bathroom, there are bathrooms on the train.

Slightly more on topic: I recall from books and movies that American passenger trains used to carry a set of portable steps that the conductor could use to let passengers off the train if, for some reason, it stopped other than at a platform. For instance, if it overshot a request stop. I don't know if that's still the case but if it were, maybe the pets (and their owners) could use it.
They still do. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G24wWdKZbE at about the 4:55 mark. And that's at a platform!

Re: Amtrak passengers stranded for 29 hours feared they had been kidnapped
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 16:41, 13th January 2023
 
Or (clearer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bANWsmK5Vgg at the 3:45 mark.

Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by grahame at 22:21, 21st February 2023
 
On Feb. 3, 2023, a Norfolk Southern train carrying hazardous chemicals derailed in East Palestine, Ohio.    Followed by a massive blaze and lots of issues with pollution.

From The Independent

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has called on the rail industry to immediately improve safety standards or face stiff penalties after a train derailment in Ohio forced mass evacuations and a toxic chemical spill and burn off.

Mr Buttigieg unveiled a package of reforms on Tuesday that would increase fines for “egregious violations”, force rail companies to provide sick pay and inform local officials when they are transporting hazardous materials through their state.

Not the first such accident - US rail is has a much worse record that British, for which we should be thankful.  It brings to mind, though Llangennech.

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by Electric train at 06:47, 22nd February 2023
 
Not the first such accident - US rail is has a much worse record that British, for which we should be thankful.  It brings to mind, though Llangennech.

President Obama brought in regulations for the transportation of toxic substances on US Railroads, during his time in office President Trump revoked the regulations.

Trump administration repealed a regulation requiring modern brakes for oil trains and cancelled a plan requiring train operators to be tested for sleep apnoea, withdraw a requirement for two-person crews on trains.

The USA FRA in Trump's time spelt out the broader department attitude toward rail safety:

“DOT’s approach to achieving safety improvements begins with a focus on removing unnecessary barriers and issuing voluntary guidance, rather than regulations that could stifle innovation.”


Derailments and level crossing accidents seem, to me, in the USA just a day to day hazard of running a railway

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by Bmblbzzz at 10:40, 22nd February 2023
 
And 12-hour shifts.

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 14:42, 22nd February 2023
 
Apparently Trump is going to visit East Palestine today. It'll be interesting to see what he says.

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by Electric train at 18:00, 22nd February 2023
 
Apparently Trump is going to visit East Palestine today. It'll be interesting to see what he says.

Make America great again?

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by ellendune at 07:52, 23rd February 2023
 
Apparently Trump is going to visit East Palestine today. It'll be interesting to see what he says.

It might not be prudent for him to mention deregulation of railway safety. 

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by grahame at 08:26, 23rd February 2023
 
Apparently Trump is going to visit East Palestine today. It'll be interesting to see what he says.

It might not be prudent for him to mention deregulation of railway safety. 

Prudency and Trump tend not to go together.

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by Electric train at 16:23, 23rd February 2023
 
Apparently Trump is going to visit East Palestine today. It'll be interesting to see what he says.

It might not be prudent for him to mention deregulation of railway safety. 

Prudency and Trump tend not to go together.

This is part of what is referred to the "rust belt" once the industrial heartland of USA manufacturing it was and psoibly will be the part of the USA where his "Make America Great Again" has the biggest appeal.  I'm sure his deregulation of railroads was part of MAGA by allowing easier movement of goods

Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by stuving at 00:47, 24th February 2023
 
The NTSB has put out a preliminary report. The technical bit is that an axle bearing overheated, and was detected just before the accident and the drivers told to stop. However, the bearing failed before the train stopped, leading to the derailment. At the previous detector (20 miles away) it was not yet too hot.


Re: Ohio .... accident, spill, burn off
Posted by Electric train at 06:47, 24th February 2023
 
47 mph does not seem very fast to cause such a catastrophic derailment, until you take into account the length of the train 149 waggons which can be 67 feet in length 70 to 100 tons.

The use of a knuckle couplers (Janney coupler) with no buffers; these coupling will not prevent rail cars knife jacking, disconnecting in a violent vertical movement, although US rail cars carrying hazardous substances have coupling which is designed to prevent this.   

USA - railways and incidents (merged posts)
Posted by ChrisB at 14:48, 6th March 2023
 
From the BBC

CCTV shows the moment a ceiling panel came crashing down, nearly hitting a commuter at a subway station in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

The Massachusetts Department of Transportation (MBTA) said the panel was installed in the 1980s, and weighed about 11kg (25 lbs) because of moisture build-up.

No injuries were reported, and the MBTA said it had now removed any other panels from the station that posed an immediate safety concern. It also announced it would carry out inspections on panels in all of its stations.

Click here

Freight train derailed in USA
Posted by infoman at 13:08, 30th March 2023
 
near Raymond in Minnesota(which in the central North) near the Canadian border at 01:00am local time

The train was carrying Ethonol and corn syrup

LIVE pictures from Sky

No injurys were mentioned

Re: Freight train derailed in USA
Posted by Red Squirrel at 17:14, 30th March 2023
 

The train was carrying Ethonol and corn syrup


…on it’s way to a Californian Zinfandel factory, perhaps?

San Francisco cable cars: short film from Tom Ingolls
Posted by Mark A at 22:18, 17th May 2023
 
Lovely survivors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtFpFHuy6D0&t=1s

Mark

Re: USA / Railroad death rate
Posted by grahame at 19:53, 13th January 2024
 
Four years later - the Florida toll continues

From Yahoo News

NTSB investigating 2 Brightline high speed train crashes that killed 3 people in Florida this week

FORT LAUDERDALE Fla. (AP) — The National Transportation Safety Board said Saturday it will investigate two crashes involving Florida's Brightline train that killed three people at the same railroad crossing on the high speed train's route between Miami and Orlando.

The crashes happened Wednesday and Friday at a crossing along the U.S. 1 corridor in Melbourne, on Florida's Atlantic coast, where the high speed train passes through on its daily routes to and from South Florida. Since Brightline launched the 160-mile extension that links South Florida and Orlando in September, there have been five deaths, according to an Associated Press database.

Friday's crash killed driver Lisa Ann Batchelder, 52, and passenger Michael Anthony Degasperi, 54, both of Melbourne. On Wednesday, 62-year-old Charles Julian Phillips was killed when the vehicle he was driving was hit by the train. Three passengers in that vehicle were injured, according to Melbourne police.

Melbourne Mayor Paul Alfrey told reporters at the scene that the SUV tried to outrun the train. He said he's spoken to Brightline officials about doing another public safety campaign to warn drivers not to go around railroad crossings because the train is traveling at higher speeds.

“I start by saying if the arm is down don’t go around,” Alfrey told Orlando television station WKMG. “There’s no good outcome with a train. This is an unfortunate situation. We have the loss of life again. There’s safety precautions for a reason, and people need to adhere them.”

The bright, neon yellow trains travel at speeds up to 125 mph (201 kph) in some locations. The 3.5-hour, 235-mile (378-kilometer) trip between Miami and Orlando takes about 30 minutes less than the average drive.

Re: USA / Railroad death rate
Posted by stuving at 20:38, 13th January 2024
 
Four years later - the Florida toll continues

From Yahoo News

NTSB investigating 2 Brightline high speed train crashes that killed 3 people in Florida this week

I know there's a huge number of grade crossing along that line, and was wondering how many. I found a forum post saying "Brightline has 328 grade crossings in about 190 miles apparently." That sounds quite plausible. Brightline did improve some of those, by adding central reservations so you can't dodge round the barriers etc. But Floridans are just not used to trains that arrive before you hear the horn sound.

NSTB have not posted that investigation yet, though they do have at least one already underway on Brightline. They classify grade crossing accidents under highways, which looks odd - but maybe isn't. The one I did find involved a vehicle stopping on one track to wait for a freight train on the other, before the barrier came down behind it. There was a fast train the other way as well ...

Collision between train and military vehicle, USA
Posted by broadgage at 20:25, 13th September 2024
 
It appears that the military vehicle, some type of large self propelled artillery piece, was grounded or otherwise stuck on a level crossing and then struck at a considerable speed by a freight train.
No serious injuries reported, perhaps surprisingly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c93p35wd00eo

Re: Collision between train and military vehicle, USA
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:31, 13th September 2024
 
'Goose Creek' - so apt.

And the freight train just kept going. 

Re: Collision between train and military vehicle, USA
Posted by Electric train at 07:18, 14th September 2024
 
Perhaps the weapon that the USA should send to Ukraine is CSX 

Level (grade) crossing collisions in the USA are a daily occurrence

Re: Collision between train and military vehicle, USA
Posted by stuving at 14:22, 14th September 2024
 
If you go to Goose Creek (virtually, of course) you can see that the track is above road level and a short ramp of asphalt has been built up to it to help vehicles get across. Short vehicles, at least, since it's far too short to prevent a low-loader grounding. And there's even a sign warning of exactly that hazard! A pictorial one, which still looks odd to me in the land of verbose road signs (I think this is a recent change).

I've tried to attach a .kml file - I've never worked out how to link to Google Street View (in Earth or Maps), but we'll see how it goes. If all else fails, the location is 33°00'03.70" N  80°02'13.27" W.

Plan C is a screen shot - at least that works!

New York teen accused of stealing subway train and crashing it - September 2024
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:05, 19th September 2024
 
From the BBC:


New York police have arrested one of two people they suspect of taking and crashing an empty subway train.

The person arrested, a 17-year-old girl, is charged with criminal mischief over the incident in Briarwood subway station in Queens, shortly after midnight on 12 September.

She and her companion are accused of entering and operating the train, then causing a "collision".

A search continues for the companion. No injuries were reported in the crash.

The New York Police Department (NYPD) has offered few other details and it remains unclear how the pair gained access to the train.

The BBC has contacted the NYPD and New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) for further comment on this aspect.

Nor have officers said how far they were able to travel in the train before they fled.

Surveillance images released by police showed one suspect dressed fully in pink - including a shower cap - and a second person wearing blue.

As well as the criminal mischief charge, the arrested teenager has also been charged with reckless endangerment.

The second person was described by the NYPD as a male with a slim build and light complexion, who was last seen wearing a blue tank top and red shorts, and carrying a black backpack.

A similar incident was reported in January at Forest Hills-71st Avenue station, also in Queens. Again, nobody was hurt and no damage was reported.

At the time, officials speculated that a stolen key was used.

They moved to reassure the public that the train would not have been able to leave its yard and reach active tracks.


Quietest national network station in 2023 - USA style
Posted by grahame at 14:43, 26th October 2024
 
From the Independent

A sparsely populated town in Texas is home to the least-used Amtrak train station in America, only receiving 247 passengers within a year.

The National Railroad Passenger Corporation, better known as Amtrak, spans across 21,000 route miles in 46 states in the US, operating more than 300 trains a day.

[snip]

In Amtrak data analysed by MailOnline, it was revealed that Sanderson, an area in Terrell County, Texas, with a population of only around 700 people, received 247 passengers at its station in 2023.

[snip]

Despite its low passenger use, the station got a $3m makeover in 2021, with a new open-air shelter, concrete platform and walkways to make the station more accessible.

The station is served six times a week, westbound and eastbound, by the long-distance Sunset Limited train that runs from New Orleans to San Antonio, then to Los Angeles for a 48-hour-long journey, as well as the 32-hour Texas Eagle, which departs from Chicago on its way to Los Angeles.

While only a small town, Sanderson has come to be known as the “Cactus Capital of Texas”, and is also an important livestock grazing center.

Re: Quietest national network station in 2023 - USA style
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:29, 26th October 2024
 
From the Independent

A sparsely populated town in Texas is home to the least-used Amtrak train station in America, only receiving 247 passengers within a year.

The National Railroad Passenger Corporation, better known as Amtrak, spans across 21,000 route miles in 46 states in the US, operating more than 300 trains a day.

[snip]

In Amtrak data analysed by MailOnline, it was revealed that Sanderson, an area in Terrell County, Texas, with a population of only around 700 people, received 247 passengers at its station in 2023.

[snip]

Despite its low passenger use, the station got a $3m makeover in 2021, with a new open-air shelter, concrete platform and walkways to make the station more accessible.

The station is served six times a week, westbound and eastbound, by the long-distance Sunset Limited train that runs from New Orleans to San Antonio, then to Los Angeles for a 48-hour-long journey, as well as the 32-hour Texas Eagle, which departs from Chicago on its way to Los Angeles.

While only a small town, Sanderson has come to be known as the “Cactus Capital of Texas”, and is also an important livestock grazing center.

... a new open-air shelter ...

In other words, a roof with no sides. 

This at a location where the annual rainfall is 41 inches, and there is less than one passenger a day. 

That was $3m well spent, then.

Re: Quietest national network station in 2023 - USA style
Posted by eightonedee at 17:32, 26th October 2024
 
So it's not just the UK where it seems to cost a fortune to build anything on a railway....

Re: Quietest national network station in 2023 - USA style
Posted by Oxonhutch at 18:42, 26th October 2024
 
In other words, a roof with no sides. 

Cactus capital of Texas. Think shade!

Re: Quietest national network station in 2023 - USA style
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:49, 26th October 2024
 
Instead of air conditioning? 

 
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